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			<title>Flue pipe/gallery integration and size (single or twin walled)</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:55:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am currently ready to work on the flue gallery and I have some questions regarding this. When planning I always considered to use a 125mm flue pipe (see attached image), and I wanted to use the david s method of connecting the flue pipe to the casted flue transition. You can see it in this post:...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I am currently ready to work on the flue gallery and I have some questions regarding this. When planning I always considered to use a 125mm flue pipe (see attached image), and I wanted to use the <a href="https://community.fornobravo.com/member/1528-david-s" style="background-image:url('https://community.fornobravo.com/core/customavatars/avatar1528_1.gif');" class="b-bbcode-user b-bbcode-user--has-avatar js-bbcode-user" data-userid="1528" data-vbnamecard="1528">david s</a> method of connecting the flue pipe to the casted flue transition. You can see it in this post:<br />
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				I've recently taken on the task of building a flue gallery and outer decorative arch from a customer who attempted his own solution which failed. My approach is rather different than building in brick units which have three big drawbacks. Firstly the problem of the alignment of vertical brick joints and secondly the thickness of the brick units contributing to a large thermal mass acting as a heat sink drawing valuable heat from the oven. Lastly it is almost impossible to create a smooth compound curve with brick units and therefore a smooth smoke flow. However casting enables all three of these shortcomings to be avoided as the attached pics show. Also the labour involved is considerably reduced. <a href="https://filedata/fetch?id=435724&amp;d=1614052847" target="_blank"><a href="filedata/fetch?id=435724&amp;d=1614052847" class="bbcode-attachment"  ><img alt="Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1318.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	99.8 KB ID:	435724" data-attachmentid="435724" data-align="none" data-size="medium" border="0" src="filedata/fetch?id=435724&amp;d=1614052847&amp;type=medium" data-fullsize-url="filedata/fetch?id=435724&amp;d=1614052847" data-thumb-url="filedata/fetch?id=435724&amp;d=1614052847&amp;type=thumb" data-title="Click on the image to see the original version" data-caption="" class="bbcode-attachment thumbnail js-lightbox bbcode-attachment--lightbox" /></a></a> <a href="https://filedata/fetch?id=435725&amp;d=1614052864" target="_blank"><a href="filedata/fetch?id=435725&amp;d=1614052864" class="bbcode-attachment"  ><img alt="Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1321.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	95.0 KB ID:	435725" data-attachmentid="435725" data-align="none" data-size="medium" border="0" src="filedata/fetch?id=435725&amp;d=1614052864&amp;type=medium" data-fullsize-url="filedata/fetch?id=435725&amp;d=1614052864" data-thumb-url="filedata/fetch?id=435725&amp;d=1614052864&amp;type=thumb" data-title="Click on the image to see the original version" data-caption="" class="bbcode-attachment thumbnail js-lightbox bbcode-attachment--lightbox" /></a></a> <a href="https://filedata/fetch?id=435726&amp;d=1614052880" target="_blank"><a href="filedata/fetch?id=435726&amp;d=1614052880" class="bbcode-attachment"  ><img alt="Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1323.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	125.2 KB ID:	435726" data-attachmentid="435726" data-align="none" data-size="medium" border="0" src="filedata/fetch?id=435726&amp;d=1614052880&amp;type=medium" data-fullsize-url="filedata/fetch?id=435726&amp;d=1614052880" data-thumb-url="filedata/fetch?id=435726&amp;d=1614052880&amp;type=thumb" data-title="Click on the image to see the original version" data-caption="" class="bbcode-attachment thumbnail js-lightbox bbcode-attachment--lightbox" /></a></a> <a href="https://filedata/fetch?id=435727&amp;d=1614052899" target="_blank"><a href="filedata/fetch?id=435727&amp;d=1614052899" class="bbcode-attachment"  ><img alt="Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1322.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	98.6 KB ID:	435727" data-attachmentid="435727" data-align="none" data-size="medium" border="0" src="filedata/fetch?id=435727&amp;d=1614052899&amp;type=medium" data-fullsize-url="filedata/fetch?id=435727&amp;d=1614052899" data-thumb-url="filedata/fetch?id=435727&amp;d=1614052899&amp;type=thumb" data-title="Click on the image to see the original version" data-caption="" class="bbcode-attachment thumbnail js-lightbox bbcode-attachment--lightbox" /></a></a> <a href="https://filedata/fetch?id=435728&amp;d=1614052918" target="_blank"><a href="filedata/fetch?id=435728&amp;d=1614052918" class="bbcode-attachment"  ><img alt="Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1325.jpeg Views:	0 Size:	105.9 KB ID:	435728" data-attachmentid="435728" data-align="none" data-size="medium" border="0" src="filedata/fetch?id=435728&amp;d=1614052918&amp;type=medium" data-fullsize-url="filedata/fetch?id=435728&amp;d=1614052918" data-thumb-url="filedata/fetch?id=435728&amp;d=1614052918&amp;type=thumb" data-title="Click on the image to see the original version" data-caption="" class="bbcode-attachment thumbnail js-lightbox bbcode-attachment--lightbox" /></a></a> The first stage was to create a mould plug from 8:1 vermiculite and casting plaster. Then use a suitable form to create the inside diameter for the flue gallery casting.So far only 3 hrs labour.
			
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</div>But I currently have a 120mm flue pipe lying around, would it matter to much if I would use this 120 instead of 125mm, I know 125 was kind of the minimum required because of the 80 cm internal diameter of the oven.<br />
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Alternatively I was thinking of buying a twin walled flue pipe (125mm-180mm). I thought about doing this for multiple reasons:<br />
1. I read the isolated pipe would improve draw/draft, maybe this could be a plus with my rather shallow flue gallery/entry<br />
2. I think the bigger diameter (180mm) would fit my oven design a bit better<br />
3. It would give me the possibility if I would want to build a small roof over the oven later, it would also be sufficient for that<br />
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I would really want to know what your ideas on this is.<br />
When I would go for a twin walled flue pipe, I was thinking on how to construct and connect this to the flue gallery, and it would be difficult to follow the exact method of <a href="https://community.fornobravo.com/member/1528-david-s" style="background-image:url('https://community.fornobravo.com/core/customavatars/avatar1528_1.gif');" class="b-bbcode-user b-bbcode-user--has-avatar js-bbcode-user" data-userid="1528" data-vbnamecard="1528">david s</a>.<br />
My idea was that I can maybe just slide the twin walled connection part/adapter into the casted flue gallery (transition) and fix it by using high temperature silicon, so it accomodates for expansion/shrinkage. The other method would be to integrate this adapter/connection part directly into the cast, I think <a href="https://community.fornobravo.com/member/41702-macrinehart" style="background-image:url('https://community.fornobravo.com/core/customavatars/avatar41702_1.jpg');" class="b-bbcode-user b-bbcode-user--has-avatar js-bbcode-user" data-userid="41702" data-vbnamecard="41702">Macrinehart</a> did this recently:<br />
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				So today I made the first attempt to repair my flue gallery. This time I purchased a single-wall to double-wall pipe coupler. This coupler seals the interior of the two walls and it has a 3&quot; deep and 8&quot; diameter flang on the base which I felt would make an excellent coupler to the flue gallery.<br />
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to start I re-filled my gallery with wet sand. Then I centered this coupler on top and filled it with wet sand. Next I cleaned and dampened the already dried concrete-mix I previously molded in place. Using a concrete bonding adhesive, I made a slury of sand, concrete and adhesive per directions on the bottle and spread that around the top and exterior sides of my existing concrete-mix. Then I mixed up more of the casting home brew and used that to build up the flue gallery around the pipe coupler.<br />
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My experience at this point is that the wet concrete wanted to slowly slump. After messing around for a while trying to mitigate this without much success, I finally decided to wrap the damp concrete in plastic cling wrap with the hope that a little pressure from the outside could hold everything in place while it slowly dries. Finally, once everything was satisfactory I pulled the coupler out.<br />
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My hope is first that I get a reasonable bond between new and existing concrete. I presume if that works then once the material is set up I'll have to do a little work to get the coupler to fit. If it doesn't work, then I'll have to knock this gallery down and redo it.
			
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Any tips and comments are very welcome, this part of the build is really holding me back <img src="https://community.fornobravo.com/core/images/smilies/rolleyes.png" border="0" alt="" title="Roll Eyes (Sarcastic)" smilieid="7" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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			<title>Dome mortar joint crack after curing fires, advice needed</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 05:38:54 GMT</pubDate>
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I&#8217;m building a Pompeii-style brick oven and I&#8217;m looking for some advice before I go any further. 
 
The oven has an internal dome diameter of about 1 metre. The dome is built from firebricks with refractory mortar from a wood-fired oven / refractory supplier in NSW. 
 
The crack is...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi everyone,<br />
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I&#8217;m building a Pompeii-style brick oven and I&#8217;m looking for some advice before I go any further.<br />
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The oven has an internal dome diameter of about 1 metre. The dome is built from firebricks with refractory mortar from a wood-fired oven / refractory supplier in NSW.<br />
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The crack is in the dome wall, in the mortar joint between the bricks. The bricks were soaked before laying. <br />
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Build details:<ul><li>Pompeii-style brick dome oven</li>
<li>Internal dome diameter: about 1 metre</li>
<li>Firebrick dome with refractory mortar</li>
<li>Mortar was supplied by a wood-fired oven / refractory supplier in NSW</li>
<li>Concrete support bench is about 120 mm thick</li>
<li>Under-floor insulation is calcium silicate board, either 25 mm or 30 mm thick from memory</li>
<li>Dome has not yet been wrapped in ceramic fibre blanket</li>
<li>Dome has not yet been rendered with perlite render</li>
<li>The dome was fired while still exposed/uninsulated</li>
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I&#8217;ve done about five curing fires. The first one was around 150°C maximum, then I increased each firing by about 60°C. The last fire got to around 450°C.<br />
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To be honest, I fired it before insulating the dome because family and friends were putting pressure on me to use the oven, and I probably pushed ahead before the oven was really ready.<br />
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The crack started at around 1 mm and has now opened up to about 4 mm at the widest point. It is in the mortar joint between the dome bricks. I&#8217;ll attach photos showing the crack from the inside and outside. The crack starts at the soldier course and runs upward however the peak width is around the solider course/layer 1 and 2.<br />
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The oven hasn't been fired since I noticed the expansion of the crack to roughly 4 mm which was around 9 months ago, the crack hasn't expanded since. I should also note that I did notice smoke leaking from the crack, smaller smoke leaks were also detected on a much smaller crack on the other side of the dome.<br />
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My main concern is whether this is just a normal curing/mortar joint crack, or whether it means the dome is spreading and I should reinforce or repair it before insulating and rendering. Is this build savagable?<br />
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I&#8217;ve read online about people using a stainless steel band around the soldier brick course to restrain outward movement. I was wondering whether that is worth considering here. One idea I had was a stainless band around the soldier bricks, possibly connected to steel brackets or supports fixed into the 120 mm concrete support bench. But I&#8217;m not sure if that is a good idea, overkill, or potentially a bad idea because of thermal expansion.<br />
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My questions are:<ol class="decimal"><li>Is this oven salvagable?</li>
<li>Is this stainless steel band around the soldier course a real solution, I'd prefer to over engineer than to have any doubt of collapse</li>
</ol>Here is a link including a video to an earlier post I made on reddit <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzaoven/comments/1o8uwu9/advice_needed_cracks_in_my_pizza_oven/" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/pizzaoven/c...my_pizza_oven/</a><br />
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Any advice would be really appreciated!<br />
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