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  • V-wiz
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    Some more work done from the other day.

    Im really loving these bricks. Minus the fact that all the bricks are different sizes. Wouldn't be surprised if they were hand made. For the installation of the brick we cut them in half, basically doubling the use of these bricks, so we installed them with thinset, we will go back and fill the gaps with mortar.







    Beautiful sky from last night



    Removed the entry/arch form, need to fill in the gaps with fine sand.

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  • stonecutter
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    I think everything looks fine. Good progress!

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  • V-wiz
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    Chimney and face is pretty much done, just need to fill out the corners.




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  • brickie in oz
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    Originally posted by V-wiz View Post
    So what kind of recommendation can you make?
    Look at the website, you need to extend the forces of thrust somewhere, they just cant stop in mid air or the arch will fail.

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  • V-wiz
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    Originally posted by brickie in oz View Post
    It may look divine, but then divine dont defy gravity....




    Thats the way arches go.
    An arches job in life is to just lay flat, it wants to stretch out.
    You, the oven builder, have to stop it from doing so.


    So what kind of recommendation can you make?

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  • brickie in oz
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    Originally posted by V-wiz View Post
    Ill see how it looks once i take out the entry/arch form.
    It may look divine, but then divine dont defy gravity....


    Originally posted by V-wiz View Post
    Typically if its was to not stay up how would it go down first, from the sides? pushing outward?
    Thats the way arches go.
    An arches job in life is to just lay flat, it wants to stretch out.
    You, the oven builder, have to stop it from doing so.

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  • V-wiz
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    Originally posted by brickie in oz View Post
    Correct......

    You dont have enough buttressing to counter the weight of the chimney.
    It may stay up, it may also come down, plan for it to stay up.


    Ill see how it looks once i take out the entry/arch form. Typically if its was to not stay up how would it go down first, from the sides? pushing outward?

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  • brickie in oz
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    Correct......

    You dont have enough buttressing to counter the weight of the chimney.
    It may stay up, it may also come down, plan for it to stay up.

    Edit:-
    Looking at your arch line of thrust and referring to the website I posted, your arch is doomed to fail without adequate buttressing.
    Last edited by brickie in oz; 03-31-2013, 10:38 PM.

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  • V-wiz
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    Originally posted by brickie in oz View Post
    Correct.
    I mean correct about the last bit.
    lol so no?

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  • brickie in oz
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    Originally posted by V-wiz View Post
    The red bricks on the side may serve as buttressing no?
    Correct.
    I mean correct about the last bit.
    Last edited by brickie in oz; 03-31-2013, 10:16 PM.

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  • V-wiz
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    Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

    Originally posted by brickie in oz View Post
    This great website from India will give you more than enough information about arches and loads.

    Auroville Earth Institute
    Interesting, thanks. I hope it holds up, crossing fingers. The red bricks on the side may serve as buttressing no?

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  • brickie in oz
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    Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

    This great website from India will give you more than enough information about arches and loads.

    Auroville Earth Institute

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  • V-wiz
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    Originally posted by brickie in oz View Post
    I hope you have some buttressing in mind for the arch with all that weight on it?

    You dont think the bricks to the side would be enough? care to elaborate? Thanks

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  • brickie in oz
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    Re: 42" Brick Oven & Grill in Los Angeles.

    I hope you have some buttressing in mind for the arch with all that weight on it?

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  • V-wiz
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    Why is the layout of the page so narrow? i cant even edit them.

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