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  • #46
    Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

    Depends on what you want to do. The additional floor mass from setting the bricks on the narrow edge is supposed to be good for bread baking as it holds heat longer, but it will also take longer to get them to temp if you are primarily planning to use for pizza.
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    • #47
      Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

      Originally posted by deejayoh View Post
      Depends on what you want to do. The additional floor mass from setting the bricks on the narrow edge is supposed to be good for bread baking as it holds heat longer, but it will also take longer to get them to temp if you are primarily planning to use for pizza.
      Pizza 95% of the time
      I hate to go backwards,
      Will they heat in 2 hours?
      Thanks
      M

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      • #48
        Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

        I can't say from personal experience, but I would guess that with a good fire going that should be no problem.
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        • #49
          Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

          Originally posted by deejayoh View Post
          I can't say from personal experience, but I would guess that with a good fire going that should be no problem.
          Thanks!!!!

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          • #50
            Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

            Originally posted by Tscarborough View Post
            The primary issue is that it is designed as a multiple batch bread oven, meaning it has an extreme amount of mass that has to be heat soaked. Good for daily use, bad for company in an hour or two. Second some of the specific construction details like the suspended slab, and the throat design are just ill advised or poorly executed.

            For home use, the ideal is an appropriate amount of mass, well insulated and isolated from the weather cover. For an occasional use oven used to bake 4 or 12 pizzas, the thermal mass optimizes at around 2 inches. For making a big batch, say 30+ pizzas, 4" of thermal mass is better, but you will have to add a lot more heat to get it to Neapolitan temps and maintain them.

            Do you really want actual Neapolitan pizza, or is that just a general term to you.

            Neapolitan pizza cooks in 90 seconds or less. Pic 1
            Neo-Neapolitan pizza cooks in 2-3 minutes. Pic 2
            New York style cooks 4-5 minutes. Pic 3
            American style cooks 6-12 minutes, Pic 4 (Detroit style is the only kind I cook that long).
            I think i just got my answer
            I was looking at the pizza pics and did not read this like i should have
            We will be re-doing the floor
            Last edited by Crawfish fest; 08-22-2013, 10:23 AM.

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            • #51
              Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

              Originally posted by Crawfish fest View Post
              Yes, it was
              Hi Crawdaddy,

              Its me again, being an ass! I went back to the photo of your V-crete layer. Do you have a better photo of it? The photo I mentioned above was slick and smooth. The V-crete should be a thick, grainy, crumbly delicate looking layer, to have insulating value. I hope that you have a photo, so I can stop thinking about your darn oven.

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              • #52
                Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                Originally posted by Laurentius View Post
                Hi Crawdaddy,

                Its me again, being an ass! I went back to the photo of your V-crete layer. Do you have a better photo of it? The photo I mentioned above was slick and smooth. The V-crete should be a thick, grainy, crumbly delicate looking layer, to have insulating value. I hope that you have a photo, so I can stop thinking about your darn oven.
                I hate that this oven is keeping us both up late at night
                That's all the pics i have
                Try to sleep,

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                • #53
                  Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                  Close up of 5:1 vermi-crete

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                  • #54
                    Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                    That looks like vcrete, but i can tell where it is in relation to your oven.

                    How is the build going?

                    Tex
                    Texman Kitchen
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                    • #55
                      Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                      Originally posted by texman View Post
                      That looks like vcrete, but i can tell where it is in relation to your oven.

                      How is the build going?

                      Tex
                      Thanks Tex
                      We will be bqck on it sunday
                      That is under the oven,
                      I went out and bought more blanket, so we will have 3 layers on the top and sides.
                      M

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                      • #56
                        Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                        You really have a great site to party and enjoy water sports!

                        Your vericrete doesn't look like 5:1 to me. How much sand did your mason put into the mixture?

                        If you are tearing back to change the floor to flat, I'd put an ceramic fiber mat under the firebrick as well.

                        It would really improve your floor heating quickly!

                        Has Brickie checked in with you yet?

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                        • #57
                          Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                          Originally posted by mikku View Post
                          You really have a great site to party and enjoy water sports! Thanks!

                          Your vericrete doesn't look like 5:1 to me. How much sand did your mason put into the mixture? Not sure, i will ask

                          If you are tearing back to change the floor to flat, I'd put an ceramic fiber mat under the firebrick as well. Good idea

                          It would really improve your floor heating quickly!

                          Has Brickie checked in with you yet?
                          dont think so

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                          • #58
                            Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                            We fixed the bricks on the floor and walls today.
                            We stayed with the 5" of vermi-crete as the under floor insulation.
                            Hoping we finish the dome and flue next weekend.
                            Happy Labor Day
                            Michael

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                            • #59
                              Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                              We got 6 hours in today. Part of the dome is done.
                              More next sunday
                              Michael

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                              • #60
                                Re: Building my 1st oven on Tickfaw River in La.

                                Getting there.

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