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    Hello gang,
    I'm rebuilding my door which I built four years ago of wood. I had it backed with thin sheet metal but that was just a stop-gap, temporary thing. Back then I bought two rough-cut oak 2x4s; one for immediate use and the other because they were green and I knew the wood would dry and shrink. So now it's time to use the dried wood and make the permanent door. This time I want to back it with whatever metal is used for the metal doors I see on ovens on this site.

    I don't know squat about metal. I plan on going to a local metal-works business and have the piece made. Is there anything I need to know about metal type? What should I get? It's really only to be a backing for the wood door. So it can be as light as possible; doesn't have to be the door itself. Just a barrier so I don't cook the door along with the sourdough.

    Thanks all.

  • #2
    Re: What type metal for door?

    Stainless. But the metal panel will char the door if it is directly attached.
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    • #3
      Re: What type metal for door?

      You can use aluminum as well, pretty easy stuff to work with. You will have the same problem, it will smoke the wood.
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      • #4
        Re: What type metal for door?

        I know normal plate steel is hardly ever (maybe never ?) used but why not if I may ask ? Sure, it can rust, but it can be painted so that should not be the problem.

        What would be the problem with normal steel ?

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        • #5
          Re: What type metal for door?

          None - harder to cut, still going to smoke the wood. You may minimize the problem by putting the metal on standoffs. Why not just build a metal door?
          Last edited by Les; 10-16-2013, 03:43 PM.
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          • #6
            Re: What type metal for door?

            Nothing. But it's like anything, there are pros and cons. I would choose based on what I could get....I had free stainless, so I that's what I used.

            Personally, I would list metal options this way

            1. Stainless Steel
            2. Copper
            3. Aluminum
            4. Carbon Steel
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            • #7
              Re: What type metal for door?

              Originally posted by nachtwacht View Post
              I know normal plate steel is hardly ever (maybe never ?) used but why not if I may ask ? Sure, it can rust, but it can be painted so that should not be the problem.

              What would be the problem with normal steel ?

              tia
              I'm not disagreaing with the other posts. Just answering a specific question. I would not paint the portion of the carbon steel that faces the interior of the oven. I would just cure it with pam, bacon fat etc. The choice is yours.

              Just sayin'
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              • #8
                Re: What type metal for door?

                I had one made of stainless, with 3" of ceramic blanket inside. The hole will be made smaller for my 8" thermometer

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                • #9
                  Re: What type metal for door?

                  All food for thought. Charring the door probably won't bother me much. The door I have now is slightly charred and it really wasn't protected well and it's four years old. Mind you, it's never in place when there's a fire in there. It's only used for breads & roasting and the like. Never with pizza.

                  As for why not just use a metal door, simple. I don't want to. I like the aesthetics of wood. I sure don't see many others like it (not none. Just not many). And as I am a bit of a mule in my stubbornness, I'd rather go for what I want than accept that I can't have what I want. I built the oven in the first place because I could not find the pizza I wanted. What I remember having as a kid when I lived in Naples (1960 - 1963). So for me it's a small concession to have a charred door - even if I have to replace if in another other five years.

                  Thank you all for your thoughts and input.
                  Kim

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                  • #10
                    Re: What type metal for door?

                    Originally posted by stonecutter View Post

                    1. Stainless Steel
                    2. Copper
                    3. Aluminum
                    4. Carbon Steel
                    or
                    1. $$$
                    2. $$$$
                    3. $$
                    4. $


                    Just sayin', if you have to pay for the material then carbon steel looks pretty good. Also if you want to weld your door, it's the easiest to work with.

                    FWIW, I used high temp paint on the inside of a carbon steel door and have had no problems. It doesn't chip off or anything like that. I wouldn't paint my carbon steel pans, and I wouldn't bother seasoning my door
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                    • #11
                      Re: What type metal for door?

                      Originally posted by KEmerson View Post
                      ... What I remember having as a kid when I lived in Naples (1960 - 1963). So for me it's a small concession to have a charred door - even if I have to replace if in another other five years.
                      That's what it's all about.

                      Here is what I did with my door.

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                      Consider an insulated panel to protect the wood.
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                      • #12
                        Re: What type metal for door?

                        Stonecutter,
                        Now that's just plain gorgeous!

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                        • #13
                          Re: What type metal for door?

                          Originally posted by KEmerson View Post
                          .

                          As for why not just use a metal door, simple. I don't want to.
                          My brain just got whiplash. Maybe your title was a little misleading, s/b wood door and metal... The wood does look very nice, I just wanted to build one and done.
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                          • #14
                            Re: What type metal for door?

                            I made mine from aluminium stuffed with ceramic fibre on the inside with timber on the outside. Looks ok and works fine. The aluminium is easy to work if you don't have specialist gear and it is cheap as well.

                            The bottom part of outer door is 3 x 2 on the flat so the whole thing stands without any other support. If anything happens to the timber it can just be removed and replaced and the inner metal section fits into the inner arch and the aluminium that attaches to the timber seals against the reveal. I was going to put a CF rope seal on this but it works fine without it.

                            Here are a couple of pics. There is more detail in the attached album.

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                            • #15
                              Re: What type metal for door?

                              Metal is very conductive and gets dangerously hot. It tends to suck the heat out of the oven. Wood is quite insulating by comparison. Stainless is the least conductive of those previously mentioned.If you only use the door for baking and roasting temperatures a wood door is fine, but will eventually have to be replaced. Do not attempt to hold the pizza temp heat of an oven with a wooden door overnight or you may find that you have no door in the morning.
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