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  • WarEagle90
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    Block work looks good.

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  • rwiegand
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    Day 3 of work was the day that the stand design was, to coin a phrase, set in concrete.

    I started notching the blocks for the angle iron and had done the first one with an angle grinder and abrasive wheel, while dressed in a moon suit. Well, not quite, but I'm a woodturner and have a "powered air purifying respirator" that has a hardhat with face shield that it pumps HEPA filtered air into. A must-have if you wear a beard and need good quality particulate filtration, but it looks like something out of a SF movie. Anyway, after one side of the first half block I concluded that there had to be a better way, and indeed there was. Off to the hardware store for a 7" diamond blade (I got a Makita with the notches in it, rated for wet or dry cutting. With that blade in a circular saw I buzzed through the remaining blocks in about 15 min with flat square cuts. Wetting the blocks helped with the dust, if I'd had an assistant I would have misted the cut continuously. As it was, the mostly dry blocks cut very easily and neatly.

    With everything stacked and checked for square four times it was back to the hardware store for concrete mix and a mixer from the rental department. I did a lot of concrete work when I was younger, we had an antique mixer that weighed as much as my truck so I was skeptical of the device with the plastic barrel and little electric motor, but it worked just fine for the purpose. Filling every other hole in this base, for the record, took 17 sixty pound bags just about exactly. Three hours later the job was done and another milestone reached. Another trip to the Borg to return the mixer.

    Next step will be building the slab forms and setting up the rebar.

    6 trips for supplies plus two scouting trips to stone yards so far for the project.

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  • rwiegand
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    Day 2 was a combination of refining plans and some actual work. I decided my base could be a half block narrower and still fit, after some gymnastics with pizza peels I decided to raise the hearth to a final height just over 48", raising the block base by an additional course. With two courses of block over the lintel I decided to go ahead with the angle iron supports-- at 3/8" thick they aren't going to rust through any time soon, and probably won't fall down in any event once they are tied into the slab. I had been thinking about an arch on the lower level, but that was rejected by the design committee.

    With that, and measuring everything for a third time to be sure it would fit, it was off to the home depot. I think I may try to track trips to the hardware store for this project, just for grins. It was a pretty good load on the back end of the truck-- how do people without a real truck do projects like this?

    Got the blocks unloaded, laid out the perimeter and started stacking. Then it was time to go find angle iron of the specified dimensions. Fortunately there is a good metal supply shop not too far away-- 3/8" angle iron is not a stock item at the hardware store. I must have paled at the price, as the guy decided to give me the trade price rather than retail and knocked $20 off.

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  • purplehaze
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    My oven is a cast in place mono pour. I was a bit more work but well worth it. Definitely use adequate forms for the arch. I was able to get some large styrofoam blocks that I use for the wood storage arch.

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  • UtahBeehiver
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    I think you pretty much answered you own question. I does take a little more forming to do an arched lintel which is inherently self supporting and stronger than a flat lintel but as you said, a mono pour ties in the walls and hearth into the lintel. Be sure to form well, there have been a couple blowouts on the arches when the forming material was not build with strong enough material or reinforced properly.

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  • rwiegand
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    I see that some folks have used a cast-in-place lintel that ties into the walls and slab with rebar, done in a monolithic pour. Is there any downside to this approach other than a little more concrete? I've had to replace enough rusted out angle iron supports for block lintels in old houses to know that they are a bad idea.

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  • WarEagle90
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    Looking forward to seeing the build come together.

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  • UtahBeehiver
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    Your thread was just approved so have at it. Be sure to ask the collective brain trust of the Forum for any questions you may have. It is a lot easier to change on paper than once the mortar flies (BTW, although an engineer, I am still a pen, graph paper and ruler type). My oven floor is not flush with the apron either.

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  • rwiegand
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    A new Folly at Full Moon Farm-- build thread

    We'll it has probably been a decade in the thinking stage, and with the completion of all the trim and painting in the upstairs of our house last week the time has come for the pizza oven to move to the top of the project list. And so the build begins. Today being a beautiful April 33 degree and raining day in Boston I chose to spend the day at the kitchen table with my sketch pad and ruler and began attempting to design the project in a serious way. Over the years I've read thousands of posts on this site and watched countless YouTube videos. The accumulated wealth of information is awesome. I hope at some point along the way to add something to it and not just be a leach. We'll see,

    When we poured the foundation for our screen porch I had the guys pour a slab for the oven for me; that was four years ago. I hope the pace picks up now! I've retired in the interim, so that helps, though I seem to have less time than ever. I have a serious woodworking shop, and most every home improvement tool there is, having done several houses now. I can build pretty much anything out of wood, but masonry is an all-new trade for me. I've set tile and pavers for walkways and such, and done a fair amount of concrete work, so that should help. I'm not an engineer and I don't do CAD, so you're not going to see beautiful drawings and thermodynamic calculations out of me.

    The intention is to build a 42" Tuscan-style oven that will be used mostly for pizza, but who knows. I do a lot of bread baking, with the current quest being to learn how to make bagels. It's not going well so far, but that's another story. I've been diligently working on my pizzas using a stone in the oven and it's gotten to the point where our friends and my kids friends ask if they can come over for pizza, so that's a good sign. My sibs assert that I have surpassed my Italian grandmother. I withhold judgement on that one. I keep telling them "just wait until I've got my oven".

    As to an enclosure, it is TBD. Most likely a gable house, probably involving stone and a tile or slate roof. Perhaps A&C decorative ceramic tiles. Our house is based on an English Arts and Crafts set of inspiration pictures, so we'll stick with the A&C/Craftsman theme. I've got some nice slabs of green soapstone that I'd like to incorporate into the structure. I've decided against making the oven floor out of them, but will probably cut them for the apron in front of the door and trim between the base and oven house. I'd love to do a timber framed enclosure, but would rather it didn't burn down, so will probably stick to steel studs and ceramic materials.

    I'm not yet happy with the overall shape of my structure, it feels a little short and fat to me, so I'll keep playing with is some. I think I have the floorplan down, so I can begin building the base in two weeks when I get back from a carving course I'm taking.

    Right now the floor of the oven looks to be 4" higher than the apron in front. Not sure how I feel about that and not sure how to make them even were I to want to do so. I'm planning on 4" of FB board under he floor, which creates the unevenness. I don't want to recess it into the floor for fear of creating a sump that will accumulate water. I hope there will be some inspiration after a day or two passes.

    I'll post my sketches, but I expect them to change at this point.

    Many thanks to those who have gone before! Let the fun begin.
    Last edited by rwiegand; 04-15-2018, 03:47 PM.
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