My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

[geisen]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Jim

I just opened the box. Felt like a kid at Christmas.
You have seriously outdone yourself.
My wife says you need a patent lawyer ;-)

While you may not want the extra work, you could sell these kits on the Forum. I will maintain the kit and keep it clean.

If you agree, when I am done, I will offer it up on the web site for the next lucky recipient.

The extra time you took to take the pictures and write up the directions is very much appreciated. Pictures are worth 1000 words.

The platform for the final courses.....Brilliant.

You should definitely post the whole series on the Forum......but be ready for a flood of requests ;-)

Now if I could just get the wife to stop filling my weekend with other stuff I could focus on what is really important and get to cutting some bricks.

Regards

Greg

[MumsOven]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Hi Jim

I liked your idea so I constructed a similar version except at the hing end I tack welded a couple of large washers to the base of the hinge and using a hole saw drilled a 2" hole in my cover board for location, the clamp idea is fantastic - it leaves me to spend time on mortar gap while still laying a perfect arc - works a treat

Thanks Jim

[jcg31]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

You are obviously a much better welder than I am. I spend twice that amount of time grinding down the huge blobs of irregularly placed metal that holds all together.

Best of luck with the build.
Jim

[tigersmith]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Hey Jim,
I went to Harbor Freight and my local Tractor Supply place and gathered the materials to make the tool. I have completed everything except the hinge. I thought I had one laying around but couldn't find it. Construction was very easy and only took maybe a half hour. Hope to get the hinge part built this weekend.
Of course, I haven't even started construction of my stand yet. Hope to get started in the next few weeks. It's snowing today.....

Later

George Stein
Bedford, Va.

[jcg31]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Jim
Just wondering if you might be able to make that shaft adjustable?...say to a few basic dome diameters...maybe 32, 36, 40...
Look forward to hearing how you think about the idea
Best
Dutch

Dutch,
It actually is adjustable if you look at the photos with the original post and the plans you will see that the end coming out of the shaft is threaded. My first version had this piece longer so you could adjust as much as 8" one way or the other, but I found that it was much more sturdy with the main (square tube) shaft closer to the length of the radius, using a much shorter thread for 3-4" adjustments. An approach I was playing with to adapt this to a Neopolitan build was a telescopic main arm that was pinned at the various positions for each row of bricks to achieve the much lower ceiling without messing with symetry. Alternative to the pin system, I played with a spring set telescoping arm governed by a kind of ellypse type mechinism (if you have ever drawn an ellypse with a string connected loosly between two points, that is what I was playing with) In the end I opted for simple. But the telescoping arm with pins could be brought back to achieve what you are talking about.

Jim

[Dutchoven]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Jim
Just wondering if you might be able to make that shaft adjustable?...say to a few basic dome diameters...maybe 32, 36, 40...
Look forward to hearing how you think about the idea
Best
Dutch

[geisen]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Jim
You got yourself a deal. It's gonna be a bit tight, but I want to go with the 42".

I did this kinda backwards, had the stand built as part of a landscape design done by a contractor. I had built my previous two backyards and didn't have it in me to do a third.

Stand is 60"wide and 66" deep. plan on adding a stone landing sticking out 8" more. Little tight on the sides, but if I use FB Blanket for insulation, I should be good. send your mailing address to (greg (at) geisen.us) and I will send a check. please give me a guess on shipping costs.

Regards
Greg

[jcg31]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Hey Greg,
You won't regret it, my chest still inflates everytime I look at my oven.

Send me size of dome inside diameter, send me check for materials (probably about $20), you also pay shipping, and I will throw one together for you. Then keep it clean ( a challenge in itself) so you can pass it along to someone else.

This may seem obvious, the radius is the same (unless you want to continually adjust the tool with each row, which I wouldn't recommend) So, 42" floor diameter = 21"radius = 21.25" ceiling height (the extra 1/4" comes from the fact that the pivot point sits atop a 1/4" piece of plywood). So if you were looking for a lower ceiling this may not be the way to go. For me 21.25"" has worked out great.

Jim

[geisen]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Jim
You indispensible tool takes the last bit of hesitation out of my mind. I have been sitting on the fence between a Casa 110 and the joy of building my own WFO. Would love to rent, borrow, buy, share one of these ingenious aids. Suggestions?
Greg

[Archena]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Coolness!

[arevalo53anos]

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Jim:

Thank you!
Long time here just means that there were more articles than left something to think in our minds.
I would go to Neapolitan style oven because having baked hundreds of pizzas and invited so much people to have a party in home, the vote for the best pizza style (or best pizza at all) is normally on VPN.
45 to 60 seconds baked pizza with the five last seconds near of the dome top (live flames on it).
Let said I have something as a VPN specialization <g>, then, obviously...

Luis

[jcg31]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Luis,

What a wonderful oven!
So I was right you were off to a great start, I was just 3 years late in saying it. Sorry for not recognizing you as one of the original contributors to the FB site (my travels have been fairly limited to the construction threads).

Just curious, why are you thinking of going Neapolitan?

Jim

[Guerito]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

jcg31

PM sent.

Guerito

[arevalo53anos]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

And finished oven...with a derivated pizza test using different kinds of pre-ferments...

Luis

[arevalo53anos]

Re: My indispensible tool (a variation on a FB theme)

Jim:

Actually, my oven had been finished more than three years ago and baking better pizzas each time.
I begun without no skills and finished it almost without any too.<g>
The information about the stylofoam that I had used was showed only to give some guidance to new readers of this forum, since my pictures are along several threads.
As your tool, it only requires that you support the bricks on it.
Today, if thinking in to build an oven again, I am sure that I will go to the Neapolitan style, which formula is High = 1/3 of internal Diameter.
Talking about this oven type is when the stylofoam (covered by alluminium foil, if necessary) could do a good job.
However, there is no point of discussion here and I did really appreciate your work and tool and that you wrote down your ideas here.
And I did love your interior oven tour!



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Luis