Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

[alexi82]

Re: Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

brand new?? how'd you manage that!?

[oasiscdm]

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That's a bargain yes ........I got a brand new 16" bricksaw for 200 bucks, now that's the ultimate bargain.

Nice work, like the reveal rebate idea.

[alexi82]

Re: Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

More progress...

Added a touch more concrete to the front to extend the landing. Wasn't sure if I was going to do this or not but decided to today. will make it easier for the archways etc.

Mocked up the first course, then mortared it in! Feels good to finally get to this stage.

Cut a couple of bevels in the entry bricks to allow for the door jam. Using the big brick saw (attached) is like using a pick axe for a needle but so long as you cut on the outside of the lines its fine... Was a bargain that saw. 300 bucks on gumtree.

Also, I had forgotten how difficult that ciment fondue is to work with. Ratios are 25kg of ciment fondu to 10L water to 10L sand. 1L of sand is 1.45kg (based on 1450kg a cube), so can get it down to 1.25kg ciment, 500ml water, 2.9kg sand. It's dry and hard to work with...pain really. I did spray it a bit as i went to keep it moist.

[alexi82]

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Progress!

Rebuilt my IT using steel rod, a caster, and welded a nut onto the angle iron which makes it adjustable to cater for the raised floor it is attached to.

[alexi82]

Re: Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

Much happier with the re work...re did the floor on 45 degree angles (herringbone). all nice and level, ready to start the dome.

using that paint mixer on the end of a drill is an awesome idea. worked a treat. i think i'll be using that method for mixing my mortar...screw the cement mixer for the smaller amounts.

cheers

[cobblerdave]

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G'day
Scrape off the fireclay sand mix and rehydrate it .....
A simple way of doing this is one of those 20 ltr paint tin mixers on the end of your electric drill and a 20 ltr plastic bucket. Takes the pain out hand mixing small amounts.
Regards dave

[alexi82]

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argh...that is such a good point. missed that bit in the plans. so obvious though...

what to do. should pull them up but ive run out of fireclay that i had left for bedding...and its 4 weeks off anymore.

reckon yellow brickies sand mix (22%clay) would do as bedding?

see this is why i love and hate this forum...love it for the right ideas, hate it cause now i have to re do haha.

[cobblerdave]

Re: Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

Gudday
Try laying on the 45 rather than they 90 if an edge pokes up you only have you peel glance of it rather than doing the dead stop thing. If you have to grind in years to come it will only be a corner rather than a whole edge.



No more complex cutting required really . This was all cut with angle grinder a brick bulster.
Regards dave

[alexi82]

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started to lay the floor bricks..got through 3/4 but my son who decided he doesn't want to have his 2 hour sleep in the middle of the day anymore woke up after 1 hour!!! i think he knows when its oven time......so the rest will have to wait until tomorrow!

[alexi82]

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took the form off the insulation layer...all good. little crumbly but only when u pick at it. otherwise pretty good. not perfect but good. will do the job!

[alexi82]

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hehe, heh. My oven is fully enclosed so you can't see the back of the mortar joints too. What the eye can't see, the heart doesn't grieve over, as my granny used to say.........

Your granny is very wise

[wotavidone]

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I used the manufacturers recommendations on the packet for the ciment fondue. It was pretty good, but found it hard to work with. Was very firm.

I never had any issues with it but it was in a barrel oven so i think less movement. Plus, i enclosed the whole thing so never saw how the mortar joints were after full firings...

cast dome be interesting....be expensive. its about 40 bucks a bag i think...

hehe, heh. My oven is fully enclosed so you can't see the back of the mortar joints too. What the eye can't see, the heart doesn't grieve over, as my granny used to say.........

[alexi82]

Re: Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

I used the manufacturers recommendations on the packet for the ciment fondue. It was pretty good, but found it hard to work with. Was very firm.

I never had any issues with it but it was in a barrel oven so i think less movement. Plus, i enclosed the whole thing so never saw how the mortar joints were after full firings...

cast dome be interesting....be expensive. its about 40 bucks a bag i think...

[wotavidone]

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yea not overthinking just ensuring I improve on the last one. I used ciment fondue last time (refractory mortar) but cost a bomb.

plus i've read lots of negatives about the refractory mortar on here...

and if we have enough clay in our brickies sand in perth to be fine then can't see why it wouldnt work! and if it wont then i'll go buy ciment fondue again!

What was your ciment fondue based mix last time, and what did you think of the mortar it produced?. Was it a nice hard mortar that resisted wear and tear from flying oven tools?

I'm planning to experiment with a homemade cast dome.

[alexi82]

Re: Finally Started - Outdoor Kitchen in Perth, WA

yea not overthinking just ensuring I improve on the last one. I used ciment fondue last time (refractory mortar) but cost a bomb.

plus i've read lots of negatives about the refractory mortar on here...

and if we have enough clay in our brickies sand in perth to be fine then can't see why it wouldnt work! and if it wont then i'll go buy ciment fondue again!