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    Curently putting plans for a Pompeii oven into construction and planning to cast 2 swing and insulated cast iron doors. Being so impessed with this site, thought that I would incorporate the Forno Bravo logo and give them recognition of my enthusiasm. I have another member interested in this project as well. Maybe others could contribute
    I have reset the artwork (although I did letterspace it a little) and plan on making a pattern to be incorporated into the door pattern or to cast it in brass (or bronze) and screw it onto the doors. The final style and decoration of the doors is what I am looking for inspiration in.
    Attached is a scan of my initial sketches. The final cross section of the doors will be dependent upon the foundry and their preferences.
    What would fellow members like to see included on a custom door for your beloved oven?
    Pattern(s) on he raised perimeter frame?
    Images or characters (as or similar to the Forno Bravo logo?
    Unveiling plaque?
    I am open to suggestions.
    Regards.
    Neill
    Last edited by nissanneill; 04-29-2007, 06:44 AM. Reason: missed .pdf file and spelling mistake
    Prevention is better than cure, - do it right the first time!

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    Re: Looking for inspiration

    Neill,

    This is a very ambitious and super plan/idea. Would it be worthwhile, do you think, to add sliding sections at the base of each door that you could open for draft control? That might give the doors more versatility.

    Jim
    "Made are tools, and born are hands"--William Blake, 1757-1827

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    • #3
      Re: Looking for inspiration

      Jim,
      I have thought of this and discussed it with a couple of people and to get a draught going in an oven, we also need to ensure that there is a flow of air, not only into but also out of the oven. Another member of the forum had a door made with a draught control but needed to leave the door ajar to allow for the draught to occur. It would be very easy to mount a 100mm diameter metal disk near the bottom of a door and then drill some half inch holes in a semicircular pattern around the centre pivot point through both the disk and door. The draught control is very easily adjusted simply by rotating the diskand exposing as many holes as required. I suppose, the same could be incorporated at the top with a simple metal rod to connect the two so as to balance the draught, (expose 2 holes at the bottom and open 2 holes at the top) what is allowed in is also allowed to escape.
      Simply leaving one door slightly ajar would do the same thing though.
      What do you think?

      Neill
      Prevention is better than cure, - do it right the first time!

      The more I learn, the more I realise how little I know


      Neill’s Pompeiii #1
      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/n...-1-a-2005.html
      Neill’s kitchen underway
      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f35/...rway-4591.html

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      • #4
        Re: Looking for inspiration

        Neill,

        Perhaps you should have a look at the photos of the combination door the blacksmith Lloyd Johnston made for me. They're in the photo gallery. His design allows for the top of the door to be leaned forward to the front of the vent in draft mode.

        The problem with the holes at the top idea is that you wouldn't have enough exhaust, given the fact that you use it during full burn. The holes at the bottom would work fine, because you really don't need all that much area for air going in. It's the exit where the volume occurs.

        Jim
        "Made are tools, and born are hands"--William Blake, 1757-1827

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        • #5
          Re: Looking for inspiration

          Hey, take a look at my cast door....I've been very happy with it.

          The bottom has a damper opening that has two sliding plates to give a lot of control. It also has an upper peep hole with a sliding disc. This will be used to inject water for steam.

          When you're firing up you can go without the door but I usually just open the dampers fully. Later on I usually close one side of the damper and even cut back the chimney damper to half setting to hold heat and smoke in.

          What I like about the setup is that you can control the fire with the door dampers pretty well and the rush of air works well to keep the fire burning.

          Might give you some ideas
          sigpicTiempo para guzarlos..... ...enjoy every sandwich!

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          • #6
            Re: Looking for inspiration

            This might be easier to use

            http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f9/f...rno+bravo+door
            sigpicTiempo para guzarlos..... ...enjoy every sandwich!

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            • #7
              Re: Looking for inspiration

              When I used a Vermont casting stove, which had double front doors like that, I just left the door open half an inch, and it created an air jet that worked like the draft doors. I didn't have to vent out the front, though.
              My geodesic oven project: part 1, part 2

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              • #8
                Re: Looking for inspiration

                Thanks guys,
                I will go back to the drawing board and incorporate some sliding draught controlling devices both in the bottom and top of the door(s). This should be relatively easy but will need to screw some locating guides onto the doors to allow the plate to slide.
                I will go and have a chat to the foundry this week and start making the patterns over the weekend (poor weather permitting: only when it is raining othewrwise will be digging foundations for the oven).
                I hadn't thought of having to spray water into the oven to raise the moisture level but when I get closer to that point I will continue to find out.
                What about decoration of the oven?
                I don't like boring old plain things including oven doors! Would rather have some pattern or decoration on them.

                Neill
                Prevention is better than cure, - do it right the first time!

                The more I learn, the more I realise how little I know


                Neill’s Pompeiii #1
                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/n...-1-a-2005.html
                Neill’s kitchen underway
                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f35/...rway-4591.html

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                • #9
                  Re: Looking for inspiration

                  Only your imagination can stop you on decoration. Check out Robert Musa's oven, not boring.

                  Kill Da Wabbit

                  Les...
                  Check out my pictures here:
                  http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/les-build-4207.html

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                  • #10
                    Re: Looking for inspiration

                    Just a sketch, but think about a sector vent, with a matching shutter. I assume you'ld want the top and the bottom vents open at the same time.

                    The old stove builders used a lot of these, but not with such wide spread sectors.
                    My geodesic oven project: part 1, part 2

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                    • #11
                      Re: Looking for inspiration

                      Slide vent closures are common too:



                      From a late model (50's) coal stove
                      My geodesic oven project: part 1, part 2

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                      • #12
                        Re: Looking for inspiration

                        Well, the patterns are made, ready for painting and casting. Altough a little on the plain side, should do the job intended. See the description and pics at:

                        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/21/n...-a-2119-2.html

                        permalink #14 for the pics and story

                        Neill
                        Prevention is better than cure, - do it right the first time!

                        The more I learn, the more I realise how little I know


                        Neill’s Pompeiii #1
                        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/n...-1-a-2005.html
                        Neill’s kitchen underway
                        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f35/...rway-4591.html

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