Re: Need Advice about wife
Evets, I have written a great witty response to your post three times and it keeps getting deleted before I can post it. Maybe the forum gods are protecting me from myself. Lets just say thank you for your suggestion and leave it at that. (I might try it sometime but don't tell anyone). Thanks Gene
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RTFlorida, You may may hit upon something about a history of bad ideas and incomplete projects. I may possibly have some issues with not completely finishing all my projects 100%. I have finished a lot of projects though. I've built us four houses over the years. Mostly I have a pretty long work week and she hates to see me work too much. Also, I really haven't presented all my WFO arguments yet. Just building my campaign right now to become a fool proof argument. I have mentioned it to her just to sort of test the water and she didn't immediately jump on board so I know its going to be a big sell job. This forum has given me lots of info. And the videos of food: how can you argue with that. Thanks for the help. Gene. 27Leave a comment:
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James, lots of good points in your Bread, Pizza and Coffee economics. Which made me think: could green coffee beans be roasted on a hot WFO floor? Has anyone tried this.
I have never roasted green coffee beans myself, but I have heard it makes for great coffee. This is a very good web forum. I have difficulties in tearing myself away from reading posts. What a great world wide community. Any tips on instructions of how to use all the forum functions? I am a bit of a novice at computers.Thanks GeneLeave a comment:
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Stan, October is national pizza month? Then it would be our patriotic duty to eat pizza right? Sounds great. 125 people at a party might be at our capacity for parking etc. My son, daughter-in-law and daughter did pretty much everything, I just wandered around bewildered. It was a costume party and the costumes (1890's -Steam punk) were unbelievable. If I can find some pictures I'll post them. That's what got me started thinking about a WFO, what a blast at a party. GeneLeave a comment:
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Just get all depressed and broody. Life has no meaning, blah blah blah. Do it in front of your mom when your wife's around. That's what I did. Worked like a charm! LOL!!Leave a comment:
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Compared with RT's more serious response, I have a pretty silly one. Maybe you can use it as a red herring. :-)
Pizza Oven Economics | Why You Should Install a Pizza Oven
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Wow, I simply cannot understand why a spouse would have any issues.
Unless your oven proposal is not financially feasible or will be utilizing the only remaining free space on your property......BUILD IT!
For gosh sake, don't you and you wife support each other on things that one of you want, but the other has "issues"?
This may sound harsh (my appologies) but, man up and build your oven. Again, if it is not causing some other hardship, what is the issue? I am far from being an expert on any subject but I have been happily married for 27 yrs. We only agree on "projects" about 50% of the time so we have had our fair share of discussions on everything from irrigation line placement, paint colors, pool size/placement/finish, to my WFO. Guess what? We always work it out and one of us always concedes in some way if the other feels passionate and strongly about a particular idea.
Sounds to me that you REALLY want an oven and you simply are not conveying how important it is to you, and your wife is blowing you off because of a previous history of bad ideas or incomplete projects.
Simply tell her this is something you feel very strongly about, IT WILL BE BUILT, and that you would like her input and support so that you can "get it right". If you still get stonewalled...........I feel sorry for you, I really do. I can't imagine not getting or not giving support in my marriage. It is simply an oven, your not asking to make babies with her sister.
Good luck......just get it done
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@Gene: 125 people?! That sounds like a PARTY. I know you're sold, but your wife should consider the following scenario:
October is national pizza month
Good luck,
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Can't seem to get that face thing to work. I guess I'll have to read the instructions. geneLeave a comment:
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Grimaldi, you may very well be right, might be the best advice given, except unfortunately I watched the you-tube video that John linked about cooking in a wood or gas fired oven.
That guy was amazing. I want to cook like that (and eat like that too). I have been looking at this all wrong. I like to build things, that's what punches my buttons, and I have been looking at this from that view, but apparently a WFO is about cooking and eating and entertaining not just building. Is cooking building? Yes, I think it just might be.
Plus Stans Five Tips..He's got me convinced. But my wife????
Janine, thank you for your insight. My original reason for building a WFO was for cooking at a big party we have each October. Last year we had 125 people attend. I thought it would be a blast to cook in a WFO for it. I was thinking mostly pizza, but clearly my view was very narrow. I will see if I can figure out how to post some pictures of last years party on this forum. I am not really very computer inclined, and I am just learning how to make all the functions of this forum work. In fact I realize I did not really begin correctly and began posting in the introduction area without really being an introduction. This forum is great. I spend a lot of time reading about other people building WFO. What a talented (and helpful-and friendly) bunch of people. http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/imag...lies/smile.gif
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As a woman, the WFO that I have is a real blessing:
It is wonderful for social gatherings. I entertain outdoors so I don't have to clean the house, just wipe down a wooden picnic table. While sometimes I'll roast a duck or such, for parties pizza is both cheap and extemely popular. I do a little prep ahead of time (make dough and sauce), but then have guests do much of the work--they can sit around the table, grate cheese, slice veggies, then everyone assembles there own pizza.
People find fixing the food half the fun, and it is a wonderful icebreaker. Rather than have people wondering what to say, who to talk to etc. they are all engaged in a common activity. Competative groups can play "who made the best pizza?" for fun. Everybody shares and cooperates and can easily enter conversation--a great social dynamic effortlessly achieved. Since the party can be about making the food, I never have to worry about having all the dishes cooked and ready at the same time. Clean-up is also easy for most WFO dishes (I line pans with foil for roasts etc.) Any leftover toppings for pizza get thrown in the fridge and usually make a great stir-fry the next day, though sometimes I've also done some fancy egg scrambles--both quick and easy dishes also.
Hope this helps,
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Nicely said, Stan.
Even though this is a gas-fired
oven video, show this to your wife Gene. Like Stan said: It's food, period.
YouTube - Cooking in a Wood or Gas-Fired Oven
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WOW, Stan! You just sold me
Seriously, very well put.Leave a comment:
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Gene, here's some things to consider:
1. WFOs use no electricity, don't heat up the house in the summer, and are stunningly fuel efficient. If you insulate well, it will stay hot for days. That means not using your oven inside for days.
2. It's not a pizza oven. Stop saying pizza; it's a bad word in these kinds of discussions. It's an oven that can cook pizza as well as anything else that goes into an oven. And, chances are it will be much larger internally than your actual indoor oven.
2.1. Also, stop saying Italian food. It's food, period. You can grill, bake, roast, braise, smoke, dehydrate, WHATEVER. Paella? Yes. BBQ? Yes. Soup? You bet. Thanksgiving? Absolutely. Crisp Peking duck? I'm working on that...
3. Nothing cooks for a crowd like a WFO. I can cook for well over 20 people in my tiny oven with no problems whatsoever. If you like to have people over for dinner, a WFO is a godsend. If you don't generally have people over for dinner, that will rapidly change with a WFO.
4. I've never experienced anything that brings people together like my WFO. Everybody goes and watches it fire, sips beverages and talks. It's astonishing what a communal cooking place can do to bring your family together.
5. If you do get permission, don't slack off! Do it carefully, and do it well. Make it pretty. Add some outdoor kitchen components. If you do it right, you've just increased the value of your home, created a place that will bring your friends and family together, and changed the way you cook. If your wife can't get behind that idea, then you need to give up.
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so far i think the grandson is your best bet try the we got to spend time to gether
bonding and teaching. tell her that you built it so he will have a reason to come around and bring his family back to see the oven he built with his grandpaLeave a comment:
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