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Re: Hello from Minnesota
It worked. Offer is still open to come take a look and talk. Send me a PM if you want.
It worked. Offer is still open to come take a look and talk. Send me a PM if you want.
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Re: Hello from Minnesota
Well, first I should ask .... is it a bad idea to place the oven near my pine tree and my shed?
I think its OK.
how large of a concrete base is needed?
I'd like to ensure I have some workspace on one side or the other....
In regards to oven design given I live in Minnesota does the dome need to be covered by another structure or can it be domed/stucco'd?Comment
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Check with your local building inspector tell him it is a built In BBQ. Here if you go larger than 120 sq ft foundation you need to pull a permit. 5 ft to back lot line and 15 ft to side lot line. 12 ft to street. All setbacks so I had one place in my back yard I could put the oven. I am glad it was a good place.Originally posted by knackjack View Post
Base depends on many factors. House or igloo, oven diameter or dimension, type of walls, counters, etc. etc. etc..
Our city requires 15 ft from other structures and stack 24" above roof.
I would build a house or roof over it if you want the igloo look.Last edited by mrchipster; 05-13-2015, 12:32 PM.ChipComment
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Our town is pretty small and not sure they have a defined set back for something like this.... I know for the storage shed it is to be 3ft from the property line.
If I build around it... does it require the second course of bricks?
I am thinking not, looking at some of the builds they build the dome, insulate and then back fill with some sort of insulating pellets.Comment
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I sent you a couple of PM's please read them.ChipComment
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COrder of build from inside out with a houseOriginally posted by knackjack View Post
Inside of domed just
Dome
Insulation - usually ceramic blanket
More insulation - usually perlite or vermiculite
Metal studs or structure - fire proof
Framing sheathing usually cement tile backer board - fire proof
Siding - many use stone or brick (mine is brick) but there is everything from stucco to tile as the weather layer and may other materials have been used even copper shingles.
Hope this helpsLast edited by mrchipster; 05-13-2015, 02:43 PM.ChipComment
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Make sure you go and talk with your local city building department. I am sure that you have set backs but might not need a permit. I was told by my city I did not fall in to a permit required build. I gave them a copy of the fb plans and was told I needed no permit. Just to check with the fire marshall and he said it did not need a permit from them either. But make sure you check because it is too much work to do and then be told to tear it down .
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So I contacted the local building/zoning city official and this is his response:
"I would view this similar to an outdoor fireplace which wouldn?t require permitting, however I would strongly suggest observing the IFC (international fire code) setback requirements for recreational fires, which specifies 25? setback from combustible structures."
If I observe a 25' set back I would need to build in the middle of my yard.
Looking for thoughts from other folks on this... at the end of the day I am wanting to place it between two combustible items (Tree and Shed).Comment
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My fire marshall said with a proper flu and chimney it was basically considered an appliance and then not governed by the fire code. I am probably 40 feet from my house but only 15 from my garage. Did you let them see the plans? People do outdoor fireplaces right on the outside wall of the house.
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No, I didn't send any plans. He didn't ask for any. I'm will need to ponder for for awhile. I too look at it like a fixture... no more so than if I moved my grill or smoker into that area too cook.... The grill would be more likely to start a fire as well as my fire pit than these oven based upon my understanding.Comment
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That is how my fire marshall took it to. I am not saying that I am right here of course, but it seemed logical. But there are a lot of people on here are a lot closer than what you said. You may want to run you chimney up a few feet past any roof line that is near by. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Hello from Minnesota
After discussing with the local inspector and describing as a BBQ he said 15 ft from other structures for openings that could emit sparks. And 2 ft above lower roof lines in immediate area (thus the flue stack).ChipComment
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When I called the City of Minneapolis to see if I would need a permit, they consulted the fire department and said that they considered pizza ovens like a BBQ and that I would need to follow ordinances for those, which is 18" from structures and not sitting on combustible structure.
The 25' distance is for recreational fires. Here is a quote from Minneapolis code:
178.50. - Applicability.
This chapter shall apply solely to recreational fires (including portable freestanding fireplaces and "chimineas") but shall not apply to barbeque grills, incinerators, barbeque pits or any other appliances or burning otherwise specifically regulated by the Minnesota State Fire Code. (2003-Or-143, ? 1, 12-15-03)
I've attached the Mnpls regs on BBQ grills. Securely fastened grills must maintain an 18" clearance.Comment
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That is good to know for Minneapolis, the Crystal inspector was more strict but then again we cannot even park on the streets overnight here. We have had several $80 parking tickets for parking next to our house overnight over the years.ChipComment
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It is very good that they were pretty open to what you w er re planning. It just kinda weird that the building and fire marshalls have such different takes on the same thing in 3 towns that are almost next to one another.
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