planning questions

[tikidollracer]

Re: planning questions

Living close enough to FB to drive there, without a doubt the pompeii90 Oven Kit would be the way to go. Then, follow the plans.

yeah, i'm considering it. it's a bit of a premium, but i don't begrudge them the profit. i'm also looking at a full dome kit. i don't mind doing the labor on a full build, but a dome will be higher quality and i could use that time to knock off the french doors for the patio, the new stucco arch for the gate at the side of the house, etc. or to just sit around and enjoy the oven.

[Lburou]

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i live near enough FB HQ that i can drive there and pick up supplies to save shipping. i'm planning to get the mortar, insulation board and blanket, chimney, from them and source the bricks locally
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-SM-

Living close enough to FB to drive there, without a doubt the pompeii90 Oven Kit would be the way to go. Then, follow the plans.

[deejayoh]

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"Enclosure" is the "politcally correct" name for a Dog House style surrounding which hides a prefectly shaped pompeii oven from view .

LOL. My neighbor looked over the fence and asked if I was building a doghouse when I put up my enclosure. Not sure what kind of dog he thought I might have that would need a huge house with a chimney and with a door 4 feet off the ground...

[cobblerdave]

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that's what i'm thinking about. get extra blanket and skip the v-crete. it's more in material cost, but a lot less time, labor, and potential for mistakes. you'd likely end up w/ better insulation than adding multiple inches of v-crete to boot.

-SM-

Gudday
Sometimes we forget about our time and labour . If we were working for someone we would expect a reasonable rate of pay. Yet when we work for ourselves we tend to undervalue our time and labour value.
Regards dave

[mirassou]

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Yes, definitely

[Gulf]

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Gulf, you're a riot...and yes, you're right, but I want an enclosure...thank Stonecutter for that as I he's the inspiration for this lol! The others are Ken524 and Dino

And that, is what really, counts the most .

[mirassou]

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Gulf, you're a riot...and yes, you're right, but I want an enclosure...thank Stonecutter for that as I he's the inspiration for this lol! The others are Ken524 and Dino

[tikidollracer]

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Gudday
Why the v-Crete . If I built again it would be, dry the dome ,3 in of ceramic then render over that.

that's what i'm thinking about. get extra blanket and skip the v-crete. it's more in material cost, but a lot less time, labor, and potential for mistakes. you'd likely end up w/ better insulation than adding multiple inches of v-crete to boot.

-SM-

[Gulf]

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What's used for the render? That's probably what I'll do as I'll be enclosing mine.

The short answer to that, for me, is stucco. Stucco is used to protect most Igloo style ovens from the weather. If you are building an Enclosure, you probably want need to include that step.

"Enclosure" is the "politcally correct" name for a Dog House style surrounding which hides a prefectly shaped pompeii oven from view .

Seriously though, an enclosure is a very efficient way to protect a pompeii oven from the elements .

[cobblerdave]

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Gudday
It would be a disadvantage in one way it would make the oven harder to dry out should it become damp or during the drying/curing process
Regards dave

[stonecutter]

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Cladding is optional and not necessary if you are building an enclosure.

[mirassou]

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What's used for the render? That's probably what I'll do as I'll be enclosing mine.

[cobblerdave]

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Gudday
Why the v-Crete . I didn't bother with the stuff it was not worth mucking around with, especially as the constant rain at that time it would never have dried. 4 in of rockwool over the 2 in of ceramic , chicken wire and render (stucco) and the oven was sealed in. Just in time for the one in a hundred year flood as it turned out. I've since helped out pearlcrete on oven and am still not impressed with that stuff . If I built again it would be, dry the dome ,3 in of ceramic then render over that. No mucking around and waiting for water to slowly work its way out. Dry and sealed in minimum time. Anyway that's how I see it
Regards Dave

[Gulf]

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Oh that's right! So Gulf, why the vermicrete?

If I understand the question correctly, here goes:

This is just my thinking, so take it with a grain of salt .

The blanket placed between the firebrick and the vcrete is the primary insulation. But, (if you think about it) it is also one heck an expansion joint. In my build, I was wanting to accomplish two things. The first was to preserve the look of the perfect sphere that I had worked my as off to accomplish. The second was to have a beefy/structural layer to support a stucco shell on which to apply brick flooring splits. (The splits give the illuson of the real deal .) The vcrete did both of those, plus it gave the added benifit of more insulation.

[mirassou]

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Oh that's right! So Gulf, why the vermicrete?