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Burn, baby, burn!!! Fired up the oven again yesterday to cook for my sister, dad and some of his friends. I'm so satisfied with the ovens recent performance and I was able to maintain pizza temps well into the night with not much wood. After the fire had died down, it didnt take much to get back up to pizza temp when my sister requested some take home pizza at the end of the night.
I am simply amazed at the performance of the oven now. It just keeps on improving with each use. Firstly, I cleared the dome in less than 40 minutes. Secondly, it didn't take that much wood to clear the dome.
I am a true believer in the insulation materials recommended on this forum. Thanks again, James et al. for such ingenious design and for sharing to all of us.
Here is a picture of Raffy's wood supplier in Manila.
Wow! It looks even more impressive in the photo! Bear in mind that's just the front and it is several meters deep. The wood is nice and dry and probably was one of the reasons why we got to pizza temp in no time at all.
The day that John and Nanette came over for some pizza, John and I noticed that the oven dome cleared in less than 40 minutes. To test the floor, John scattered some semolina flour on the cooking floor and it confirmed that the oven was up to temp to cook. To say the least, I am very pleased with the oven's latest performance. I had just covered up the bald spot on top which I left open for steam to escape. I assume this greatly improved the oven's heat retention and efficiency.
The charring underneath the pizza was perfect. We were in pizza heaven. Even roasting the vegetables and chicken was a breeze. Everything came out absolutely perfect. I'm loving the oven even more each time I use it.
We had a great day with you and your lovely family, Raffy. Thanks for all your help. Raffy introduced us to a Italian food supplier that will knock your socks off and some used/new restaurant equipment suppliers too. Then proceeded to take us back to his place to meet his family. His parents were in from Canada and a bunch of sisters/sister-in-laws showed up for a baby shower. My wife had a great time cackling with the girls and tell your mom Nanette loves her. Thanks for a great day, and the pizza was great too.
John and his lovely wife Nanette drop by the house for a couple of pizzas. Hope you guys enjoyed! Nanette was taking the photo that's why she wasn't in it hehehe
John was making a pizza it was gone before we could take a pic hehehe
I am trying to figure out where to locate it in our house in Valle. The best location is against the perimeter corner wall, but I am not sure about the setback requirements. Maybe it can be considered just part of landscaping.
Btw, do u mind if I ask how much u spent? I am talking to a small contractor to build it after I finalize size and location. I will put a tile roof (i have spare tiles), just so there's less chance of sparks flying and so it doesn't get so wet. I'll also include a side table, which you need actually. I am planning to make the oven 30-32 inches. I hope this is big enough to roast a small pig. I've cooked lechon a few times in our 30inch gas oven.
I bought a big tarp for our oven in tali to prepare for rainy season. It has a roof, but rain there flies horizontally. The clay oven was so cheap to build. I spent only about 8-9kpesos on it, including the base and the gi roof. I had left over materials from our house build and labor was done by us and our gardener. If I fire it long enough (1-1.5 hours). Floor temp gets up to 900F and the pizzas take 2 minutes. I've tried using bagasse (my friend grows sugar and makes muscovado) to fire the oven but it's really not ideal. It burns too fast and has a lot of residue which actually hampers airflow. It works well, I get slightly worried though when I bump the walls with the bakers peel.
I wanted to ask, are you required to have your chimney so high?
Paella in the oven, I will try sometime. Lechon is actually next on my agenda.
Tx!
Sorry for the delayed reply. I have been busy lately and haven't checked the forum in a while. I needed a high chimney cause you have to be 2 feet above any structure that is within 10 feet of the oven. This is for fire safety reasons plus I didn't want the neighbors complaining to the village association about the smoke. Hehehehe
Bikol is definitely a different language. Palay I recognize but never ipa. Rice hulls are burnt here also for things like a kiln or boiler or to dry things like at the place where I get my perlite. They dry the perlite before shipping for construction purposes. The drier is interesting because it uses these rice hulls to heat the perlite. The rice hulls are in a large hopper with a 4" gap at the bottom and they light the rice hulls at the bottom of the hopper. As they burn the rice hulls in the hopper feed the fire. Don't know how you would do it in an WFO.
My wife and I are retired from the states and we are developing a property near Naga, at the base of Mt Isarog, Malabsay Falls.
Bikol is definitely a different language. Palay I recognize but never ipa. Rice hulls are burnt here also for things like a kiln or boiler or to dry things like at the place where I get my perlite. They dry the perlite before shipping for construction purposes. The drier is interesting because it uses these rice hulls to heat the perlite. The rice hulls are in a large hopper with a 4" gap at the bottom and they light the rice hulls at the bottom of the hopper. As they burn the rice hulls in the hopper feed the fire. Don't know how you would do it in an WFO.
My wife and I are retired from the states and we are developing a property near Naga, at the base of Mt Isarog, Malabsay Falls.
bagasse = crushed cane stalks. burns fast with an pleasant caramel smell. but if use a lot, leaves black soot on wfo floor and there's a lot of residue which chokes the rest of the wood in my small oven. might be ok in a bigger oven. small amount is ok kindling
bigas = milled rice, definitely not fuel. (unmilled rice including hull = palay)
rice hulls = ipa. i've never tried burning this, though i've heard people use it for pottery
what do you do in bicol, if i may ask?
anyway, if you (or Raffy) are in the Fort (High Street) area in Manila, let me know and I'll treat u guys for lunch or coffee in exchange for construction pointers.
"bagasse" - milled white rice, that's what bagasse is here in Bikol. You tried to burn bagasse? I've seen rice hulls (ata) burned very effectively, but not in a WFO
My friend grows sugarcane and makes muscovado (unrefined sugar) right on his farm. It's basically boiled cane juice, reduced then crushed to a powder. It's really quite good. He sells everything just based on word of mouth. Tastewise, for me its closer to real maple syrup than brown sugar. Freshly squeezed cane juice on ice is worth trying if you ever get the chance.
Anyway, he uses the bagasse to fire his kiln. He gave me a pickup truck's worth. But it doesn't work so well in the wfo. I use it now for bonfires and outdoor grilling.
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