Outdoor sink

[brokencookie]

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Christo, does your LP gas hot water heater require an electric hookup?

I have one that just requires 2 D cell batteries and hooks up to a propane cylinder like a BBQ. The version I have will supply about 5 sinks with 115 degree F water ( health dept requirment) and costs about $300. If I remember it is a Ecotemp L10. They also have smaller versions for about $120

Portable Tankless Water Heater

You can find them on Ebay and Amazon as well.

[time29]

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I'm using a pretty great stainless steel sink, it doesn't get scratches, it doesn't stain as well. I got it from this site. I hope it helps.

[Brauma]

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Christo, does your LP gas hot water heater require an electric hookup?

Concerning a sink, I'm planning on installing one. When I'm out at the outdoor kitchen, I don't want to feel the need to run back & forth. My goal is to have everything I need out there so that once the party gets started, we can sit back and enjoy the facility.

[christo]

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was thinking about going only cold water in my sink until I was looking on Ebay and saw small instant hot water heater LPG powered at a very resonable price.

I think I'll go with a hot and cold faucet and work the instant on hot water heater in at a later date.

Chrsto

[Archena]

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All this time I was trying to figure out what WFO meant.....

It certainly wasn't what I thought it was...

Christo

I did that, too - took a while to realize what it actually meant. Still have to think about it when I see it.

[BaconGrease]

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Also planning on including a sink but initially with cold water only as it is within a metre of the location.

We only drew a single cold water line from the house, but our plumber put in an electric powered instahot gadget so the water heats just under the sink. It really does work very well. Unless you need tons of hot water I would just draw the single line.

[nissanneill]

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I'm planning on a major patio/pergola renovation for the back area where the oven is a feature. I have a cast concrete bench with orange tiles (the trendiest colour for the 70's) which are to be replaced with Italian tiles. It housed the original BBQ which was LPG and built in.
Also planning on including a sink but initially with cold water only as it is within a metre of the location. Wast water no problem as a sewer inspection point is almost directly beneath it and very east to connect legally.
Still thinking of cupboards and shelves as the existing water tank is shot and not needed to be replaced.
The roof is to be gabled with a self venting strip running the full 12 metre length which can be closed off during the colder months and half clad with colourbond and half with polycarbonate sheeting, so that no light is lost in through the large sliding door into the family room/kitchen and also the new laundry.
Also planning clear vinyl cafe style blinds above the retaining walls for those miserable times which will then turn the patio into an all year round solarium style entertainment area.
The last thing to be done will be to tile the existing concrete floor, restock the brich flour boxes with fresh plants and install the very large outdoor setting, Somewhere around the $6,000 to $8,000 should see it in hopefully by christmas.


Neill

[BaconGrease]

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We love our outdoor kitchen, we have a walk out basement, so I keep most of the supplies indoors, but we have a small fridge outside (not a true outdoor fridge, but so far it's lasted 2 years) we have a sink and I do all the cleaning up outside. will post pics in a separate post.

[RTflorida]

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Christo.....I want to, but I'm not going to ask

[christo]

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All this time I was trying to figure out what WFO meant.....

It certainly wasn't what I thought it was...

Christo

[Unofornaio]

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"Sink - have not yet found need but did install a waste pipe during construction tied to drainage system, have cold water access and would just need to cut hole in granite to install. At present have preferred the extra counter space versus benefit of sink."

Ladies and gentleman we have a winner

Why I did not think of that before, I don't know??? My solution is to rough it in and if I find the need, its in place, if not no big deal. What got me in the post was "preferred the extra counter space versus benefit of sink" which triggered the light in my head

Thanks and again thanks for all the replies
J.P

[Richard]

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Have a roofed structure with a WFO, BBQ, two separate Side Burners, Fridge, Nine bottle wine fridge and Granite countertops, wood cabinets below

Fridge in Southern California view as a need to have and saves trips back to main kitchen for infredients. Can maintain water and soda for kids plus those persihanbles I will be using for cooking. Allows to store stuff needed later in day prior to arrival of guests or just to make it easier on myself.
Wine fridge, small portable 9 bottle variety. Received as a gift, not sure I would have bought separately, keep under counter. A Nice to Have item.
BBQ - self explanatory, but am using a Tuscan Grill more often when I have WFO fired up.
Side Burners - Issue here is with even a slight breeze reducing effectiveness of burners. Use, but not as often as I had origianlly thought.
Countertops - great for making pizzas, prep other items etc. Easy to clean.
Sink - have not yet found need but did install a waste pipe during construction tied to drainage system, have cold water access and would just need to cut hole in granite to install. At present have preferred the extra counter space versus benefit of sink.

[JoeT62]

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I agree with Maver, but really this is a matter of taste rather than being "right" or "wrong."

I have decided against a refrigerator. My prep area will have an overhang which will accommodate one of the many coolers I have accumulated. My kitchen is planned for an oven, grill, tandoor and counter tops. I plan on including a separate bar/counter top as another prep/seating area. While I can certainly see the advantages of a sink (and I love Sharon's idea of hooking it up to the sprinklers for the fall blow out), I really don't think I need it.

As for the roof, my wife would cut off my hands if I killed ANY of the light coming into the house. If you really want rain protection, could you install one of those retractable awnings over part of the area (not the chimney of course )?

[maver]

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Opining as another DIYer I lean more towards a minimalist design - I think you need counters, but why do you really need a fridge outdoors? I know others here have done that, but I can keep beer cold without a fridge, and pizza ingredients can stand for an hour or so outside. If I had a day long pizza party where I want the ingredients to stay cold next to the prep area a portable cooler would fit in just fine.

Sink? How about a few bowls/buckets of water - one for cleaning and another for rinse.

Cover is very much a weather dependent thing, and depends whether you need something for shade or rain protection in your climate. Where I live, rain is the biggest issue. I built my oven with a short overhang intended to be enough to hide under when it rained - my design failed (too short) and it served no purpose. My next oven will skip that feature and instead have a portable umbrella placed in front of the oven for shelter as needed.

Counter materials - as a DIYer, think about casting concrete countertops yourself. It's a good all weather material and is no fuss - you don't really have to worry about resealing it regularly like granite (sealing helps protect against stains, but concrete is rustic - let it stain!). You can touint it, acid stain it, include bits of material for color, even grind to a polish for visual appeal. Or you can just use melamine as a mold and stay with the fairly smooth work surface that gives you. A fair amount of web information about the options for that.

Cabinets? How about a wire rack? How much outdoor storage is needed?

Marc

[CSWolffe]

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Huh, some how I keep posting things twice

Huh, some how I keep posting things twice...