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[SpringJim]

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Or just break the block end and hide the break back in the stand.....a little mortar and it will look fine!

[dbhansen]

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How about cutting/grinding off the overhanging brick(s) after it's done? A cheap masonry blade will go through the block like butter, if you have a power saw that will reach halfway through the block (maybe a 10" blade?).

[mfiore]

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Jim,

Not sure of the final finish. A lot will depend on what's left in my budget

I can't really leave a gap right now. The bottom row is the shorter one, and that's already mortared down. It's the seconde row that's too long.

[SpringJim]

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Mike

How are you going to finish the stand?

A 1/4 inch is not much of a problem. Stucco?

If you have not done the second row, just leave a gap between blocks, it does not matter structurally.

[mfiore]

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I mortared down the first set of block for the stand. Now I'm committed to the H shape.


Silly rookie mistake. Standard block sizes are not truly 16x8x8, but a little smaller to accommodate the mortar. I dry stacked mine, according to plans. Because the blocks do not have mortared joints, two half blocks are not the same as a full block.

As a result, I have 1/4 inch difference between the two courses. I know structurally, this is no big deal. Probably not cosmetically, either. I'm a little disappointed I didn't think about that. Any thoughts?

[SpringJim]

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Mike, most of us are amatures so following the plans is good. On your second and third ovens you can look at variations!

If I were to use the two wall supports like you were thinking, I'd consider doing the following : make sure to fill all the block cores, use rebar in all cores, tie in the core rebar to the hearth, use plenty of rebar in the hearth, use bigger rebar across the span and use higher strength concrete (6 sack a yard concrete was only $6 or about 4% more expensive than 5 sack). This would not be that much more expensive to build than the standard plan.

When I look at building techniques in other countries like Spain....or any high rise buildings made of concrete.... I marvel at these materials!

[mfiore]

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I better be safe, and stick with the plans

[dmun]

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We've seen at least two open-on-both-ends bases, but they both had bigger than one block supports on the sides

[mfiore]

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Do I even need the middle support section? If using enough rebar, could I just have a slab supported on the sides, with both ends open?

[thebadger]

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Mfiore,

I built mine the standard way. I can see why you are considering it. I don't have mine full of wood yet (just tools)... I'm thinking I'll just have wood on two sides so I can access it. It is hard to reach all the way in the back.

I couldn't do what you're doing since I didn't want it facing my neigbors house. I don't see that it would be a problem I would see what the "elders" say

I say go for it!
Dick

[mfiore]

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How about functionality. It seems to be useful to me to have two separate compartments. Since I am a follower and not an innovator, I an worried that I haven't seen this on the forum. Perhaps there is something obvious I am over looking. Is there anyone who is glad they have a very deep wood storage area?

[thebadger]

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Mfiore,

I sort of heard the same thing from my zoning dept. They knew what a wfo but it "doesn't exist" in their records (unlike a shed for example) so I was free to do what I wanted. That said they suggested and Im close to the 5 foot set back from my side yard. Again, my neighbors don't seem to mind... Who doesn't like pizza.

I don't see any structural issues. I would defer to the experts. I didn't use angle iron but did use extra rebar to span my front opening. I would recommend using the angle iron in the front and back.

Dick

[mfiore]

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Drake,

Photo is a little deceiving. There seems to be enough room back there to walk and maneuver (32 inches).

I've called several times to confirm, our local building code does not consider anything less than 200 square feet to be a building and does not require a permit. They were uninterested (understaffed?) in hearing about my plans, so I went ahead and put the WFO where I thought best. The neighbors don't mind. Besides, this concrete slab is sitting on a 48 inch block and concrete foundation. I don't think I'm going to redo it.

[DrakeRemoray]

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I do agree with the problem posed by the deep wood storage area (I end up rotating wood from the back of the storage area, out of the area, put in my less seasoned wood in the back then reload the front of the area, what a pain!)

But in your design, It does not look like you would have any room to access the back entrace to the storage area...

Also, my local building codes requried a 5-foot setback from my property line...just fyi...

[mfiore]

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Here is a photo of what I'm considering for my hearth design. I am worried that the traditional shape of the hearth stand would create too deep of a wood storage area, with a "dead" back end. The "H shape" would allow two separate wood storage areas, each more shallow.

Does anyone see any potential problems, either structurally or functionally?