Is this plan (oven entry) structuraly strong enough ?

[stonecutter]

Re: Is this plan (oven entry) structuraly strong enough ?

Thanks both.

Any idea on how good vermecrite could / would work as reinforced cladding ?

Basicaly that is idea 2 and 3. Maybe I should add a 4th ?

4) use reinforced cladding out of fireproof concrete.

Will search here also for it. Had looked into buttress allready. I building a low down so have to use that there also (I want to use the rebar and vermicrete on that also) but had not searched for "reinforced cladding".

thanks so far for the help.

I didn't document the process on my thread, but I applied 1" RC to my dome, which is a Neapolitan. Shortly after it was cured, I stood on top of it, just for haha's when I was framing the enclosure.

I do think a layer of v-crete or perlcrete would work, but I feeling it would have to be more than 3"...closer to 6". I will say that I have no data or past experience with this theory, just structural masonry intuition.

[stonecutter]

Re: Is this plan (oven entry) structuraly strong enough ?

Hello,

I am trying to design my oven but am curious if the design I have in mind will be structuraly strong enough to withstand the forces that go with it.

The image shows the idea I have. The inside will be 19 inch wide (48cm) and 12 inch high (30cm). Full bricks will be used so it will be 8 inch deep (21cm)

It is going to be placed "in front of the oven". I want to make a heatbrake between the oven and this arch. The arch should also support the vent so the top bricks will be something like half bricks.

I have a few questions / options that I hope to find some answers for since I do like the design of this entry.....

1) will this be strong enough without any extra support on the side ? Some wool and stuco will be on the side but I doubt this gives a lot extra of structural strenght.

2) If I put vermicrete next to this structure (lets say 3 inch) wich will go round the oven, and then some stuco (another inch) will this give enough structural strenght ?

3) like 2, but now I will put some rebar in the vermicrete, wich goes all the way down into my concrete slab. I am reasonably sure this will give enough strenght... I just do not like to have to drill in the concrete so the rebar can go in there.

Thanks in advance for any help !

To be more specific...

q2 - It depends on how much weight your arch is going to carry. Full masonry chimney, then no, you should use reinforced cladding. If you are installing a SS flue, then yes, your idea will be enough.

q3- Reinforcement in V-crete ( or perlcrete) wont work well, be cause the insulation has weak binding properties.

Have you considered a different arch configuration?

[nachtwacht]

Re: Is this plan (oven entry) structuraly strong enough ?

Thanks both.

Any idea on how good vermecrite could / would work as reinforced cladding ?

Basicaly that is idea 2 and 3. Maybe I should add a 4th ?

4) use reinforced cladding out of fireproof concrete.

Will search here also for it. Had looked into buttress allready. I building a low down so have to use that there also (I want to use the rebar and vermicrete on that also) but had not searched for "reinforced cladding".

thanks so far for the help.

[stonecutter]

Re: Is this plan (oven entry) structuraly strong enough ?

You will either have to buttress or apply reinforced cladding.

[brickie in oz]

Re: Is this plan (oven entry) structuraly strong enough ?

1) will this be strong enough without any extra support on the side ?

No..................

[nachtwacht]

Hello,

I am trying to design my oven but am curious if the design I have in mind will be structuraly strong enough to withstand the forces that go with it.

The image shows the idea I have. The inside will be 19 inch wide (48cm) and 12 inch high (30cm). Full bricks will be used so it will be 8 inch deep (21cm)

It is going to be placed "in front of the oven". I want to make a heatbrake between the oven and this arch. The arch should also support the vent so the top bricks will be something like half bricks.

I have a few questions / options that I hope to find some answers for since I do like the design of this entry.....

1) will this be strong enough without any extra support on the side ? Some wool and stuco will be on the side but I doubt this gives a lot extra of structural strenght.

2) If I put vermicrete next to this structure (lets say 3 inch) wich will go round the oven, and then some stuco (another inch) will this give enough structural strenght ?

3) like 2, but now I will put some rebar in the vermicrete, wich goes all the way down into my concrete slab. I am reasonably sure this will give enough strenght... I just do not like to have to drill in the concrete so the rebar can go in there.

Thanks in advance for any help !