New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

[Wozza]

Re: New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

I'm going with the blocks. I've already bought a few (it seems cheaper if you don't buy them all at once), so that's locked in. Which is not the case with the size.

I finally got the garden level and ready to set out the foundation and truth be told, it looked too big for the overall design. My lad expressed some concerns and I finally agreed. It seemed a bit too big. So...

It's now a 32" build. Or 800mm for us metric type guys. I actually set out that size on the table on the deck using clothes pegs. Well, they were convenient. And it looked plenty big enough. It'll suit most of what I'm likely going to put in there. And the size of the blockwork walls will now be slightly smaller than the hearth which means the whole thing will not be so imposing.

I've cut the wood to form the foundation and I have the reo and the mesh. Just need to order the road base this week, get it laid, then get umpteen 20 kilo bags of concrete, pick a convenient day and hire a mixer. Then just ensure there's enough beer in the fridge to keep me and the lad hydrated enough to pour the foundation.

[BrendanLovesPizza]

Re: New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

G'day Brendan
I don't know enough about hebel to say whether its a great material for a stand.
For house construction it's used as a cladding rather than the structure like brick veneer construction. Of course with the added insulation value.
The forno stand is heaps overbuilt...
I built mine and my first thoughts were ... OMG ... If this thing doesn't work ..... How much work will it take to remove it!
The forno stand is pretty much bullet prove.... Earthquake zones, frost heaves, it really comes done to each of us as a builder to choose.
Regards dave

It may not suit every build, like you suggested, my choice was to go with a besser block, suspended slab construction. Which suits my site. But I could have gone either way. It may well be a better fit for Wozza. There are def for and againsts for both.

[Lancer]

Re: New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

Thanks for the heads up mate! :b:

They certainly are sturdy bases.

[cobblerdave]

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Wozza. Have you thought hard about a hebel constucted stand and suspended slab. Way easier, cleaner, no mixing, faster. Would really suit your build.
ebay has some power panels on sale cheap right at the moment.

G'day Brendan
I don't know enough about hebel to say whether its a great material for a stand.
For house construction it's used as a cladding rather than the structure like brick veneer construction. Of course with the added insulation value.
The forno stand is heaps overbuilt...
I built mine and my first thoughts were ... OMG ... If this thing doesn't work ..... How much work will it take to remove it!
The forno stand is pretty much bullet prove.... Earthquake zones, frost heaves, it really comes done to each of us as a builder to choose.
Regards dave

[cobblerdave]

Re: New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

G'day lancer
The correct pronunciation is
Goodonya.
But close enough
Regards dave

[Lancer]

Re: New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

! Goodun cobbler!

[cobblerdave]

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G'day lancer
Simple really.
Age and treachery with always overcome youth and skill
Regards dave

[Lancer]

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Ya its tough! I had to watch the guys haul stuff and it was really boring!

[BrendanLovesPizza]

Re: New 36" Pompeii in Bondi

Wozza. Have you thought hard about a hebel constucted stand and suspended slab. Way easier, cleaner, no mixing, faster. Would really suit your build.
ebay has some power panels on sale cheap right at the moment.

[cobblerdave]

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G'day
I know your pain trust me.
I at least didn't have to move everything through my house.
Everything was dropped inside the front gate. Then every block, brick, gravel, sand and cement had to be moved by barrow to the back yard. I worked
Every sat for ever it seems and many times it was only moving materials and not building. I'm so glad it was winter I would have never done it in the heat.
Still I got it complete and every sore bone was worth it. Crazy to do it all myself but my boys had just moved out and didn't need me demanding their time.
Now they come back unasked and help me with heavy tasks which I except readily. Its a bit funny to get " told off "by your boys for doing heavy lifting after all the years of being the family bulldozer.
I'm sure you'll get it done and except any help that's offered
Regards dave

[Wozza]

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Landed some contract work over the last couple of weeks (I'm a draughtsman) and family events on the weekends means not much done recently. At least there's some more cash coming in to help pay for what I need.

But got the time to fill my hole back in so the ground is now at the right height for the foundation slab. I was going to form it up but there was a stump of a fig tree that we had taken down a few months back that needed digging out and Jeez, it took me all Saturday to do it. Muscles I didn't know I had are still aching.

I bought a 6 wheel trolley from SuperCheap Auto for $80 with a view to making it easier to get materials from the front to the back. I figured I'd sell it on Gumtree when I'm done. I've got about a thousand pavers to get from A to B to start but it definately wasn't as easy as I'd hoped. Anything more than 60 kilos was...tricky. These things are great for moving a fridge, but fifty trips back and forth with loose materials...maybe not so good.

[Lancer]

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The concrete is the killer.

I have a problem in that there is no easy access to the back garden. There's a tree alongside my deck at the back which means that I can't get wheelbarrow access from the side of the house to the garden. Everything has to come through the house (including the cement mixer for Chrissakes).

But I'll see what loose premix sand and agg would cost (plus bags of cement) and if there's a reasonable saving I guess I could get the loose mix dumped at the top of the drive and move it somehow through to the back. At least I could leave it all in the garden alongside where I need to mix.

That would be fun, carrying a ton of mix front to back (plus 10 steps) in a bucket. Who needs a personal trainer...

Just a thought, pile up everything you'll need for the project in the front yard. Then lay down the carpet offcuts and lastly use some cheap plastic sheeting and create a tunnel right through the house built on wood battens. Then move everything in one go.

That way the family can't see and you haul stuff through the living room, and all the dust will be contained. Also if you do it all at once you could hire a couple of high school rugby players to help with the chore.

[oasiscdm]

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Very easy Brendan. Simple as laying a brick but with each one laid equivalent to about 18 bricks.

Took a weekend and cutting wirh a panel saw how easy is that.

[BrendanLovesPizza]

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this build may help Wozza

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/51/new-build-werribee-18249-5.html#post143730

hebel construction, light weight, easy

[Wozza]

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Wozza. I got my recycled roadbase from fairfield council. $28 per tonne delivered I did 10 tonne though for my rear yard. Bunnings is $5.50 a bag for cement. Cheapest you'll get. Look on ebay or gumtree for besser blocks they come up all the time cheap. I have a mixer if ya wanted to borrow one.

Recycled road base from the council...ok, I'll check that out. And thanks for the offer of the mixer. Really appreciate it. I'm not sure if the $60 hire for the day from my local Kennards trumps the trip to your place (and back) - would it fit in the back of a Toyota Land?

G'day
Think construction you think wheelbarrow. Inside a house it too big to be usefull.
Why not strap a plastic barrel to a 2 wheel movers trolley. Lot easier to move around. In fact consider one of those with the 3 cluster wheels that climb steps easier .
Regards dave

Now that is a good idea, Dave. I will seriously investigate that. Getting it ready mixed will save me a hell of a lot of effort and no little amount of moolah. Beats me doing a milkmaid impression and staggering through the house with a bucket all day.

Daves suggestion is workable but you will need to stock up on brownie points before you start trundling all of that through the house!

Some of us don't really appreciate having plenty of room. Only lived in one place that was so small that I had to go out on the street to change my mind.

Me with polished wood floors as well. And all walls repainted and a new floor laid in the kitchen. But I could lay old carpet throughout and maybe lotsa cardboard protecting all my previous hard work.

And I'm not sure if this is good news but I'm back working again. I was quite happy to leave it until the new year before I started looking but a couple of weeks work came up that I couldn't refuse. May lead on to more which is good for the bank balance but bad for making any sort of progress on the oven. I haven't even got time to fill that damn hole back in now.

Brendan, I think Bet365 just shortened your odds for first finish by a couple of bucks.

And talking of small places, I did some work in Hong Kong a few years back and the director of the company put two of us up in an apartment he owned. You would not believe how small it was. You couldn't turn around in the toilet. You had to straddle the bowl just to close the door.

I swear this is true, but if the other guy wasn't there, I used to go into the living room to wipe my arse. I kid you not.