What is your oven worth

[Bacterium]

Re: What is your oven worth

Damon, don't sell yourself short on the labor. Based on the many terrific ovens on FB; I would put the split at 75% labor & 25% materials. A quality mason will make big $$$$ building one of our ovens......and earn every penny of it.

RT

yeah..... I suppose I qualify as "experienced" now

[Acoma]

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I am probably late in the game to this conversation, but I figure that the people that we (us to forum) surround ourselves with, invite to our home, and appreciate the QUALITY of our belongings, can appreciate our hard work. This is especially true when we explain it as a process of love, and share the benifits with them. Some of you show the concern of the oven and its benifits to buyers. I would say that if you want to promote the awesome oven, do a pre open house pizza party with the Realty team that you go with so that they will share all the praises to their buyers, which could create the respect you deserve. If someone cannot respect the hard work of building one, then they don't deserve the opportunity to share in the fun....

[RTflorida]

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Acoma,
your last statement speaks volumes. I have a couple of neighbors who thought I was crazy and actually made smart ass comments a couple of times during the building process (usually when I was busting my butt lugging bricks or concrete). My wife just doesn't get it when I refuse to invite them over for pizza; she thinks all of our neighbors should be treated equally.....all are welcome.
To me, they are not deserving......no one appreciates a smart ass, especially when your already getting your butt kicked by the oven build.

[Acoma]

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Agreed. Ask her what is most important to her in the back yard. If some of your friends were to destroy it, then watch her with humor as it is rebuilt, would she also favor their presence again? If she says yes, then wow...if she says no, then she might appreciate those views, then realize not all neighbors are equal. Heck, families don't even treat each other as equal...

[Bacterium]

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interesting comments RT and Acoma

One of my neighbours made a similar comment when I was building mine.....as it turns out he hasn't been over for pizza yet

Another story....
Last weekend I had one of my youngest son's first birthday party - I cooked up quite a few pizzas, experimented a lot and came up with my best results to date. Anyway my 5 year olds friend (who is about 6) was over at the party and he was really getting into the pizzas (eating more than the others). Well his family had elcheapo take out pizza the other night (3 days after party) and the lad said (when they were eating it) - "I really don't like these pizzas - they are no where near as good as Damon's"

As you can imagine - I was pretty happy to hear that and word is spreading.

His mum made the birthday cake (the best chocolate mud cake out) so I made sure she went home with a loaf of freshly baked (brick oven) bread that day.......Any way you are right - Once people have had the "experience" around a wood fired oven they truly understand what words can't achieve.

While I am ranting......my father in law is a real estate agent - he now knows the value of a brick oven

[Acoma]

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Damon, you had me laughing hard about the 6yr old's comments. Amazing how some children appreciate things so early. Congrat's on the party.

[maver]

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I think one of the great things about the oven is the chance to share something that you feel passionate about. To be fair to others, most people get it, but some don't - I don't get reality TV shows, metal rock or anime either. I don't blame those who don't get it, just like I hope those who enjoy spending a few hundred at a casino don't mind that I don't care to gamble. The oven really is for me (and my family). Before my move I had a reason to invite over neighbors I wouldn't normally have spent as much time with to show them the oven - it was satisfying to make the oven a way to connect. RT, if you do eventually have those smart alec neighbors over they're likely to say a few words of encouragement when they see you toiling in the future.

I was interested in the value added of my oven for my house sale when we moved recently because if I could get enough value it would help with a fresh oven build. Instead, I hauled the old oven to my new house because I couldn't find a random buyer who could appreciate it. It wasn't worthwhile to have weekly open houses for buyer's agents to try to push up the value.

My oven has been out of commission for three months while I look for time to rebuild it for the new house. Yesterday my 8 year old had to write a report on his favorite food and spontaneously described to his teacher our pizza - margherita, potato, eggplant as his favorite food. That makes it worth it.

[Archena]

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I hear crow makes a good pizza topping...

[Acoma]

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Maver, your comments and thoughts are well put. By no means should there be one formula to have an oven appreciated by one or all. I agree with the original excitement surrounding the reasons to build one origianlly. I believe we all build it because we love pizza, to build one for our passion to explore the potential to characterize it to our lifestyle, and to share with ones we either love, or the friends and parties where it can be the centerpiece for the night...
As for the idea of weekly open houses, my thought was a one time idea for those with the concern of buyers appreciating our love to enjoy, and the hopes others would appreciate.

[Inishta]

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This has got me thinking. Our oven is part of an outdoor kitchen/eating area and the oven was built by a man with that skill. The stonework etc for the rest by another team. I know what I was charged, labour only. About ?850 or $1700. Materials are difficult as there were a lot specific to the oven and a lot ordered in as part of the rest of the build. I think I need to sit down and list them for a more accurate figure. Do you think that the value of an outside entertainment area is worth only the sum of the individual parts or should there be extra value as a package?

I understand what you are saying about prospective buyers not seeing the oven as added value. When we retired last year and sold our UK house it included a 6,500 gallon heated raised koi pond and 40ft. fish house with quarantine and treatment tanks. The only value attached was decorative and as it could not be easily moved went with the house. The new owner has subsequently filled the pond in...............

inishta

[Archena]

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Any package like that is value added - as was your Koi pond. The problem is it has to have value to the potential buyer in order to recoup that value.

I would pay extra for a house with a plumbed bedroom. Very few people would even think of such a thing, let alone want one. But very few people need a specialized room for pets as I do. So if Bob puts a sink in his bedroom it's hit or miss as to whether I'll end up his buyer and be willing to pay for that or someone else will come along and insist that he have it taken out as part of the deal.

It would be a lot easier if they had matching services for home sellers and buyers. E House Harmony, anyone?

[Knackers]

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I cheated


I bought an off the shelf oven however this is what it cost me for my project

I am building it inside a Bali hut http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f7/k...html#post45256

Here is the cost so far I dont want to look actually

all is Aussie bux

Oven 2000
Blocks 1000
Timber for roof/joist & decking 2000
Thatching almost 3000
Render 500
paint 100
Concrete 500
electrical dontbloodyknowyethopeitwontthrowitovertenK

if I was to build it for someone else..... Price would be 25k ++++++ maybe 30k

[Dutchoven]

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I copied this off of the Alan Scott's Ovencrafters site...this is his son Nick's rate for oven construction...
Best
Dutch

"Nick can also customize ovens to suit individual needs.
Prices for ovens are a fixed rate as follows:
$4,000 for smaller size ovens
$4,000-$5,000 for the medium sized ovens
$8,000-$12,000 for the larger size ovens*
*The larger sized ovens are not intended for a home use purpose, these are meant as the foundation of a business, either for a restaurant or bakery.
The prices are for the main baking chamber of the oven and this does not include the finish housing around the oven or the base that the oven rests on. Nick may be willing to build these parts also if time permits. An additional charge of $500 is added if Nick builds the base, and the housing prices and styles can be discussed as these vary for each individual oven.
The fixed prices also do not include the cost of plans (which must be in hand well ahead of construction), materials, travel expenses or room and board.
Materials lists for the ovens are mailed/faxed/e-mailed to the client well in advance of Nick's arrival. Materials must be bought ahead of time and be ready at the job site. If Nick is traveling by air he can only bring his hand tools and power tools must be provided (details about this are in the materials lists.)"

[Frances]

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Heh, I'd build one for that - just the work without materials or travels expenses or anything? Cool!

[david s]

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When my daughter sold her house the agent took one look at the oven and said "well this adds another $5000 on to the house" She had no idea of what went into the build but that was the value she put on it at first glance. Needless to say I had to build my daughter another and of course better oven, at her new house.