What is your oven worth

[pizzahead]

Re: What is your oven worth

Interesting topic. I have been keeping a detail of all the materials for my oven, including base, hearth and dome (see attached).

Total material cost AUS$2,195

Some friends have asked me how much for me to build a WFO for them, It have to be between AUS$10,000-AUS$15,000 before I would even think about doing it.

Jase

[jeff]

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Crikey RT. When I first read your post, I reckoned, in order, "Nuthin" and "Priceless".
Our most expensive bits were the ceramic blanket and thermometer. Mate, we rebuilt over a pre-existing bbq, so costs were minimal. Possibly A$700?
I must say that our local brickworks fellers worship FB, and they were just SO helpfull.
(So let's hear it for BUNDABERG/WIDE BAY BRICKWORKS: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYAAAYa) [Bit short on breath, I stop.]

Our next oven will be based on river stone, and will probly cost much the same.Possibly $500 extra for the base, less $200 for the thermometer.

RT, if you're thinking of flogging your place, why not hit the Interested Parties with a Pizza Night?
OK, so you've done that.
Mate, cut your losses and smile at the pleasure you've had. Our present oven is approaching it's first birthday. (First? Second? Who cares, eh.)
I don't know the building cost per meal, but the pleasure factor trancends fiscal considerations.
Best I stop abusing big words wot I don't understand. From my perspective, though, I'd reckon a WFO, like a Scandinavian spa, would be worth four fifths of fukcall to the uniniated. We build 'em for ourselves and friends, eh.
My 2 cents worth
Jeff the Luddite.

[Ken524]

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I will be helping a friend build an oven shortly, our burget? under $500.

If you haven't already, check out DaveW's build. He built his oven on a shoestring.

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/daves-pics-progress-2476.html

[flyboy1]

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Interesting reading all the posts on this subject. I started my oven project a couple of months ago with no plans, just an idea and a few pictures i liked. Then I found this site (after the fact) and it has really opened my eyes to the potential. Working some weekends and days off the oven has gradually taken shape. I am now left with only the slate roof, chimmney and misc decorative slate tile and exterior grade mahogany to add a little character to the front facade. Originally I estimated about $2500 for the project, but like many who have posted here, I've blown that away. With landsaping etc it will be well over $4000. The formula I would use if I had to build this for a client would be to multiply the materials x 4 to arrive at a realistic number. If you are new to this, dont be discouraged though. I will be helping a friend build an oven shortly, our burget? under $500.

[chuckster]

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My next-door neighbor was making fun of me while I was building my oven. He's from Mexico City and, as I headed into my second month of working on every free hour, told me, "In Mexico we build an oven in one day out of mud and when it cracks we just knock it down and build another one!" Gee, thanks buddy!

I still gave him pizza!

[david s]

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When my daughter sold her house the agent took one look at the oven and said "well this adds another $5000 on to the house" She had no idea of what went into the build but that was the value she put on it at first glance. Needless to say I had to build my daughter another and of course better oven, at her new house.

[Frances]

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Heh, I'd build one for that - just the work without materials or travels expenses or anything? Cool!

[Dutchoven]

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I copied this off of the Alan Scott's Ovencrafters site...this is his son Nick's rate for oven construction...
Best
Dutch

"Nick can also customize ovens to suit individual needs.
Prices for ovens are a fixed rate as follows:
$4,000 for smaller size ovens
$4,000-$5,000 for the medium sized ovens
$8,000-$12,000 for the larger size ovens*
*The larger sized ovens are not intended for a home use purpose, these are meant as the foundation of a business, either for a restaurant or bakery.
The prices are for the main baking chamber of the oven and this does not include the finish housing around the oven or the base that the oven rests on. Nick may be willing to build these parts also if time permits. An additional charge of $500 is added if Nick builds the base, and the housing prices and styles can be discussed as these vary for each individual oven.
The fixed prices also do not include the cost of plans (which must be in hand well ahead of construction), materials, travel expenses or room and board.
Materials lists for the ovens are mailed/faxed/e-mailed to the client well in advance of Nick's arrival. Materials must be bought ahead of time and be ready at the job site. If Nick is traveling by air he can only bring his hand tools and power tools must be provided (details about this are in the materials lists.)"

[Knackers]

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I cheated


I bought an off the shelf oven however this is what it cost me for my project

I am building it inside a Bali hut http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f7/k...html#post45256

Here is the cost so far I dont want to look actually

all is Aussie bux

Oven 2000
Blocks 1000
Timber for roof/joist & decking 2000
Thatching almost 3000
Render 500
paint 100
Concrete 500
electrical dontbloodyknowyethopeitwontthrowitovertenK

if I was to build it for someone else..... Price would be 25k ++++++ maybe 30k

[Archena]

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Any package like that is value added - as was your Koi pond. The problem is it has to have value to the potential buyer in order to recoup that value.

I would pay extra for a house with a plumbed bedroom. Very few people would even think of such a thing, let alone want one. But very few people need a specialized room for pets as I do. So if Bob puts a sink in his bedroom it's hit or miss as to whether I'll end up his buyer and be willing to pay for that or someone else will come along and insist that he have it taken out as part of the deal.

It would be a lot easier if they had matching services for home sellers and buyers. E House Harmony, anyone?

[Inishta]

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This has got me thinking. Our oven is part of an outdoor kitchen/eating area and the oven was built by a man with that skill. The stonework etc for the rest by another team. I know what I was charged, labour only. About ?850 or $1700. Materials are difficult as there were a lot specific to the oven and a lot ordered in as part of the rest of the build. I think I need to sit down and list them for a more accurate figure. Do you think that the value of an outside entertainment area is worth only the sum of the individual parts or should there be extra value as a package?

I understand what you are saying about prospective buyers not seeing the oven as added value. When we retired last year and sold our UK house it included a 6,500 gallon heated raised koi pond and 40ft. fish house with quarantine and treatment tanks. The only value attached was decorative and as it could not be easily moved went with the house. The new owner has subsequently filled the pond in...............

inishta

[Acoma]

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Maver, your comments and thoughts are well put. By no means should there be one formula to have an oven appreciated by one or all. I agree with the original excitement surrounding the reasons to build one origianlly. I believe we all build it because we love pizza, to build one for our passion to explore the potential to characterize it to our lifestyle, and to share with ones we either love, or the friends and parties where it can be the centerpiece for the night...
As for the idea of weekly open houses, my thought was a one time idea for those with the concern of buyers appreciating our love to enjoy, and the hopes others would appreciate.

[Archena]

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I hear crow makes a good pizza topping...

[maver]

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I think one of the great things about the oven is the chance to share something that you feel passionate about. To be fair to others, most people get it, but some don't - I don't get reality TV shows, metal rock or anime either. I don't blame those who don't get it, just like I hope those who enjoy spending a few hundred at a casino don't mind that I don't care to gamble. The oven really is for me (and my family). Before my move I had a reason to invite over neighbors I wouldn't normally have spent as much time with to show them the oven - it was satisfying to make the oven a way to connect. RT, if you do eventually have those smart alec neighbors over they're likely to say a few words of encouragement when they see you toiling in the future.

I was interested in the value added of my oven for my house sale when we moved recently because if I could get enough value it would help with a fresh oven build. Instead, I hauled the old oven to my new house because I couldn't find a random buyer who could appreciate it. It wasn't worthwhile to have weekly open houses for buyer's agents to try to push up the value.

My oven has been out of commission for three months while I look for time to rebuild it for the new house. Yesterday my 8 year old had to write a report on his favorite food and spontaneously described to his teacher our pizza - margherita, potato, eggplant as his favorite food. That makes it worth it.

[Acoma]

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Damon, you had me laughing hard about the 6yr old's comments. Amazing how some children appreciate things so early. Congrat's on the party.