Do you make your own Prosciutto?

[Acoma]

Re: Do you make your own Prosciutto?

I see......Fullback, speakup.

[Chef4life]

Re: Do you make your own Prosciutto?

Hahaha,

I WILL share, in time, but I am in need of a friendly exchange with our friend Fullback. If he doesn't come round here anymore, I will share with thte rest of you

Chef

[Acoma]

Re: Do you make your own Prosciutto?

Chef, share now....no secrets!

[Chef4life]

Re: Do you make your own Prosciutto?

Hi there!

Mr. Fullback, I would also be interested in his ingredients and process...feel free to email me if you can. I would be more than willing to share my bulletproof salami recipe...

Chef4life

[fullback66]

Re: Do you make your own Prosciutto?

That is why you do this process in the winter. Nice and cold in the basement room. Once the curing begins and you had it hung for awhile it can warm up a little.
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[KiwiPete]

Re: Do you make your own Prosciutto?

What we really shouldn't forget is climate control, you can't hang a ham in the tropics no matter how much salt you pack it in.

You're absolutely right about that. Temperature and relative humidity need to be within certain bands for the curing process to work correctly.

[BaconGrease]

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Yes.. botulism is bad.
It is also lethal.
What we should no forget however, is that prosciutto (and jambon serrano in Spain) has been made for hundreds, maybe thousands of years with nothing else than pork and sea salt (and time..)

What we really shouldn't forget is climate control, you can't hang a ham in the tropics no matter how much salt you pack it in.

[KiwiPete]

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Yes.. botulism is bad.

It is also lethal.

What we should no forget however, is that prosciutto (and jambon serrano in Spain) has been made for hundreds, maybe thousands of years with nothing else than pork and sea salt (and time..) If the risk was of botulism poisoning was so high, than people would have stopped doing it a long time ago. Making prosciutto is nothing more or less than a time-honoured method of preserving meat, prior to the existence of fridges and freezers.

Its a bit like the time honoured design of a pizza oven. They are the shape they are, because its been proven to work (over a couple of thousand of years)..

Nitrates / Nitrites being added to the meat, are a recent phenomenon. And yes, they will kill botulism, but then again nitrites have also been shown to be carcinogenic. So it appears the choice is between a very small chance of dying from botulism or otherwise from some unspecified cancer...

Heck.. bring on the real-deal prosciutto.. I could also get run over by a bus tomorrow.

A similar argument has been going on for some time now about the use of raw milk for making cheese. Many countries, including NZ unfortunately, prohibit the use of raw milk for making cheese (commercially). But every country in europe has made cheese that way for hundreds of years, and most of those europeans look pretty healthy to me. Fact is, in Europe, 10 times more people die from salmonella from improperly prepared or cooked chicken than people die from listeria from bad cheese made with raw milk. Yet I don't see them banning chicken..

So to cut a long story short: I put a good deal of faith in food preparation methods that have been around for hundreds of years and waaay less in a bunch of bureacrats that try and decide whats good for me or not.

Coming back to topic:

Fullback66, If you could document the "recipe" and if possible add some pictures etc, that'd be great..

Cheers
Pete in NZ (making his own cheese from raw milk.. buffalo mozzarella is next..)

[asudavew]

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botulism bad..........

[fullback66]

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I can do that. I know how he does it. I need the details. I can give you more pictures of the process as well.
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p.s. It is good stuff.

[KiwiPete]

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fullback66

Any chance of prying the ingredients / preparation method / curing times etc from your friend?

[asudavew]

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Those pics are awesome.

But I'm just not that brave!

[fullback66]

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Home Cured Prosciutto Recipe

asudavu,
That looks like a good way of making Prosciutto in a fridge.

Here are a few pictures of the Prosciutto I helped (watch him) make. We would like to make smaller ones out of pork loins. Pork loins will not have to hang as long.
I need to take a recent picture of the bodies. It has been about 1 year since these pictures were taken.
They are really moldy, dried up balls of goodness.

He calls them "the bodies".

The only thing he would do next time is put a heavy weight on top of the pork when he is salting them.

He also makes his own wine. You can see the bottles in the back ground.

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[DrakeRemoray]

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I have not gone that far, but I have done some curing using this cookbook.

Amazon.com: Charcuterie: The Craft of Salting, Smoking, and Curing: Books: Michael Ruhlman,Brian Polcyn,Thomas Keller

Let me tell you the confit pork belly in here is to die for (and it just may kill you).

Drake

[KiwiPete]

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I have recently been thinking about doing this...

Although the lack of a decent cellar hampers my efforts, somewhat.

There is some good info here: sausagemaking.org Parma Ham Style Cure

They have also have a very good forum as well that is worth having a look at.

In particular in the section about "curing | techniques" has a lot of good information.