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  • fxpose
    Master Builder
    • Jul 2009
    • 942

    #61
    Re: Concrete slab question

    This morning I nailed in a few support braces for the plywood form. I think this is plenty support to handle the weight of the concrete pour. I will also prop a couple of 2x4's under it.
    Tomorrow, I plan on laying down some plywood, form rebars on top, erect perimeter forms, and pour the slab.

    I have one question though: Should the center block column tie directly in with the slab or should the slab simply rest on the column and be independent of one another in case of settling? I could cut the column rebars and cover the top of the column with a piece of plastic sheeting before pouring the slab if they were to be independent.

    Last edited by fxpose; 11-04-2009, 10:22 AM.
    George

    My 34" WFO build

    Weber 22-OTG / Ugly Drum Smoker / 34" WFO

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    • Neil2
      Il Pizzaiolo
      • Oct 2006
      • 1374

      #62
      Re: Concrete slab question

      What does this centre column do ?

      In any case, I would isolate it from the triangular slab. Connecting it structurally to the slab will induce all kinds of stresses and it will likely produce cracks.

      Don't forget to allow for drainage of the "void" under the slab.

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      • fxpose
        Master Builder
        • Jul 2009
        • 942

        #63
        Re: Concrete slab question

        Originally posted by Neil2
        What does this centre column do ?
        That's a good question.
        Having never done this type of construction before I thought the center column would give additional support but figuring the slab will be supported by sitting on top of the foundation walls on all three sides, why would I need it, considering the small area involved? There will be plenty of rebars also, so on second thought perhaps there was no need for this center column to begin with.
        I'll probably just remove the top three blocks of the column as those cores are not filled yet and cut the rebars. I'll just add an additional wood bracing across the middle there...
        Last edited by fxpose; 11-04-2009, 07:11 PM.
        George

        My 34" WFO build

        Weber 22-OTG / Ugly Drum Smoker / 34" WFO

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        • ThisOldGarageNJ
          Il Pizzaiolo
          • Mar 2009
          • 1436

          #64
          Re: Concrete slab question

          fx,
          after looking at the pic again,, that is not a tremendous span.. in my opinion you could surely leave it out.. with the rebar you should be good to go.. and like neil said it may add too many additional stresses.... and most of us have enough stress already (snicker)
          Keep going
          Mark

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          • fxpose
            Master Builder
            • Jul 2009
            • 942

            #65
            Re: Concrete slab question

            Thanks guys! Early this morning I removed the column, added additional joists, and nailed down the bottom plywood form.
            George

            My 34" WFO build

            Weber 22-OTG / Ugly Drum Smoker / 34" WFO

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            • fxpose
              Master Builder
              • Jul 2009
              • 942

              #66
              Re: Concrete slab question

              I think prepping for a suspended slab was far less labor intense than filling and tamping/compacting that area will fill material.



              George

              My 34" WFO build

              Weber 22-OTG / Ugly Drum Smoker / 34" WFO

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              • ThisOldGarageNJ
                Il Pizzaiolo
                • Mar 2009
                • 1436

                #67
                Re: Concrete slab question

                Hey FX,
                Looks good and I dont think your gonna get it any more solid any other way, Nice job tying it all together.. When you pouring ??

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                • jmhepworth
                  Journeyman
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 293

                  #68
                  Re: Concrete slab question

                  Nice job with the steel. It's nice to see I'm not the only one to over-engineer that part.
                  Joe

                  Member WFOAMBA Wood Fired Oven Amatueur Masons Builders America

                  My thread: http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f8/j...oven-8181.html

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                  • fxpose
                    Master Builder
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 942

                    #69
                    Re: Concrete slab question

                    Thanks guys! So far, I'm pretty happy with the way things are turning out. I will be pouring concrete today and contunue work in the next area.
                    I am just glad I'm not paying someone else to do this job. Concrete and blocks are cheap, but I'm spending a whole lot more money on rebars.
                    George

                    My 34" WFO build

                    Weber 22-OTG / Ugly Drum Smoker / 34" WFO

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                    • fxpose
                      Master Builder
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 942

                      #70
                      Re: Concrete slab question

                      Another slab down...

                      George

                      My 34" WFO build

                      Weber 22-OTG / Ugly Drum Smoker / 34" WFO

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                      • ThisOldGarageNJ
                        Il Pizzaiolo
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 1436

                        #71
                        Re: Concrete slab question

                        is there anyone under that slab ??? Looks good man... only how many to go till you get to the oven ??

                        Nice job
                        Cheers
                        Mark

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                        • Archena
                          Il Pizzaiolo
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1214

                          #72
                          Re: Concrete slab question

                          Originally posted by ThisOldGarageNJ
                          is there anyone under that slab ??? Looks good man... only how many to go till you get to the oven ??

                          Nice job
                          Cheers
                          Mark
                          Hmmmm, ya know, I haven't seen RT all day...



                          Congrats on the purdy concrete, FX!
                          "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                          "Success isn't permanent and failure isn't fatal." -Mike Ditka
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                          • RTflorida
                            Il Pizzaiolo
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 1446

                            #73
                            Re: Concrete slab question

                            Hey now!!!
                            Although that was well deserved and Jimmy Hoffa WAS like a father to me, I wouldn't be caught dead (pun totally intended) wearing a pair of cement shoes after Labor Day.

                            RT

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                            • ThisOldGarageNJ
                              Il Pizzaiolo
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 1436

                              #74
                              Re: Concrete slab question

                              We all know "jimmy" will be at the Giants game today

                              Cheers
                              Mark

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                              • Archena
                                Il Pizzaiolo
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 1214

                                #75
                                Re: Concrete slab question

                                Ouch! Too bad FX didn't bury those puns while he was at it...
                                "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot

                                "Success isn't permanent and failure isn't fatal." -Mike Ditka
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