Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

[Greenman]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

Without the fire it may as well be a gas/electric oven in the kitchen. I agree that it is all about the rituals and the fire and the smoke, gathering wood and learning the skills needed to use the oven to potential.

Not sure that I have ever seen a group of people sitting around a gas kitchen range having a beer watching someone mess with the oven, watching the food cook and enjoying the camaraderie of it all.

Did I mention the fire, the flickering flames - we all have a little boy playing with fire hidden deep inside somewhere.

[uk_exile]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

We do gather around the gas BBQ so socially it wouldn't change much once friends are there. But I do think they'd be more likely to come often if there's a fire to play with & to sit around after eating. Seems more & more it's not a happening thing........unless I move house into rural zoned area

[uk_exile]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

This is perhaps a small step up from the plate we use Bakerstone Pizza Oven Box | Pizza Ovens - Gas | BBQs Direct

[cobblerdave]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

G'day
Aussie BBQ Forum • View topic - Aldi Gas Pizza Oven

Link to a discussion on the Aldi gas pizza oven. Interesting that someone filled one with cement to add to the thermal mass

Regards dave

[uk_exile]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

G'day
Aussie BBQ Forum • View topic - Aldi Gas Pizza Oven

Link to a discussion on the Aldi gas pizza oven. Interesting that someone filled one with cement to add to the thermal mass

Regards dave

Thanks. Can get similar here but 3 to 10 times the price ! Gas fired pizza oven
I've realised they're effectively pretty much same as hooded BBQ with stone/plate, except have a door rather than opening the hood.

[uk_exile]

Re: Pizza ovens NO LONGER BANNED BY COUNCIL :-)

GREAT NEWS!!! Excuse the shouting but they're no longer banned !!!! Proposed changes to the rules allow outdoor cooking everywhere :-) http://www.ecan.govt.nz/publications...or-burning.pdf

[Greenman]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

That is good news for pizza oven makers in NZ. Good to see authorities applying some common sense to such things. Must be a pizza lover in the ranks!!

[uk_exile]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

Improving air quality is important, however I think the powers that be saw how ludicrous the existing rule was, particularly as there was no definition of what a BBQ was. It left it way too open to interpretation and in some cases high fire risk devices or very smoky devices were declared ok whereas safe clean ovens were not acceptable. This way they allow all outdoor cooking by one simple rule and then can deal with individuals who cause excessive smoke or create high fire risk via various other rules.
The remaining risk now to any pizza oven builder is it's still the 'proposed plan' but has been effective since 28th February 2015. Public submissions being sort with public hearings later in 2015. There's a small chance if build one now that there could be objections to proposed plan during this year and the proposed changes don't become permanent in 2016

[vertigopilot]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

Improving air quality is important, however I think the powers that be saw how ludicrous the existing rule was, particularly as there was no definition of what a BBQ was. It left it way too open to interpretation and in some cases high fire risk devices or very smoky devices were declared ok whereas safe clean ovens were not acceptable. This way they allow all outdoor cooking by one simple rule and then can deal with individuals who cause excessive smoke or create high fire risk via various other rules.
The remaining risk now to any pizza oven builder is it's still the 'proposed plan' but has been effective since 28th February 2015. Public submissions being sort with public hearings later in 2015. There's a small chance if build one now that there could be objections to proposed plan during this year and the proposed changes don't become permanent in 2016

Forge ahead! Far better to ask forgiveness than seek permission. If the proposed plan doesn't stick, then your oddly-shaped BBQ/ceremonial religious shrine will still turn out some fabulous pizza... by happy coincidence.

[robt]

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Excellent news. I'm powering on with mine in the hope that good sense continues to prevails at our esteemed and learned Council.
If not, my kids with have the most over-engineered dolls dome house ever to play with!

[uk_exile]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

Excellent news. I'm powering on with mine in the hope that good sense continues to prevails at our esteemed and learned Council.
If not, my kids with have the most over-engineered dolls dome house ever to play with!

Good on you to be brave however I'm waiting until it's finalised. Main reason is the WFO is the justification for a whole new outdoor area with masonary walls, paving etc. Big job & likely about $7k of expense. I don't want to risk building it then the centre piece becomes redundant

[uk_exile]

Re: Won't be starting - Pizza ovens banned by local council

There's my project sketches in the first post of this thread. Wow, just noticed that was December 2011 !!! Another year wait isn't big considering the wait so far! http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/h...-nz-15172.html