Open Grill design ideas

[John K]

Re: Open Grill design ideas

Here is a example in use

Just need a nice piece of stainless steel sheeting on the back wall to finish it off

[kossowan]

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I've put a few designs together too, struggling to get a grill area incorporated. I'm currently at design phase, and am largely leaning toward a 'cooking fireplace' - a rumford-esque deal with a 2-3' hearth for grilling on. Figure that way I get a fireplace and a grill space in one - but it certainly does size up the entire project. Trouble with masonry is there's SO MANY OPTIONS!

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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cool arch..... i like it

[Archena]

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Ooohhh, like!


I finally have my SketchUp where I can get at it. Here's what I want to do. It's actually designed after a Middle Eastern custom of long grilling pits that guests sat alongside and grilled their own food. I just prefer chairs - and so do my knees! I figure on some sort of removable top so the space can be used as a table when not grilling. Haven't worked out the drain (rainwater is inevitable) yet beyond planning on a French drain outlet.

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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hey john,

Your build is looking good....

Cheers
Mark

[John K]

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I have looked through here and not found any examples of an open grill.

I have just poured a foundation for my WFO, and have enough space for a countertop adjacent to the oven location to form an 'L' shape.

I would like to have a recessed pit with an iron grate above so that I can transfer coals from the oven to the pit for grilling.

Does anyone have any suggestions, photos, designs that accomplish this? My initial questions are regarding the location of the grill - the heat it would transfer to the surrounding countertop (to be used as a prep surface) is a concern. Additionally, would you suggest having a chimney over the grill? Perhaps to tie in with the oven chimney?

Is the grill a poor idea?

Cheers!

Hi

Not sure if this is the type of design you are talking about but I am building both a WFO and a large spit/Grill to allow for Lamb spit rotisserie and also a grilling area.

Note that the grey tiles on the sand will be replaced with the left over fire bricks

Hope this helps

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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Rick,, Check out the Pulled Pork,,, Incredible stuff

Enjoy your oven

Cheers
Mark
http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f25/...pork-8733.html

[Spunkoid]

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Mark,

That's exactly what I am talking about!
At this stage, I am pretty much convinced that I do not need the open grill now that the forno is operational. Saw your steaks a few days ago and will be trying that out soon.

Regards,
Rick

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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hey spunk,,, check out my thread on Dirty steak,,, You may not want a grill after you read it...
http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f12/...teak-8266.html

Cheers
Mark

[Spunkoid]

Re: Open Grill design ideas

I would like to have a recessed pit with an iron grate above so that I can transfer coals from the oven to the pit for grilling.

I've seen a number of designs that incorporate a gas grill into a counter. Having said that, I was looking for an older, used, as big as I can get, gas grill. My intent is to clean it up, remove all of the gas components, repaint it, line the bottom with 1/2 brick, and replace the grates with new ones. My plan was to build the old BBQ into the counter then use it as the open grill.

Since I've gotten the forno operational, I am rethinking that idea as the forno seems to be able to do everything I wanted to do with an open grill.

[tomtom]

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Mich, Not sure what you want to do with an open grill but I think you limit yourself to what you will enjoy cooking on it. Burgers and hotdogs- maybe, steak and chicken - maybe not. But I do think that having a small open grill space say 18"x 18" or a little larger would be a great addition to where you could do some sauteeing. Vegetables, shrimp, carmalized onions for your pizza etc. I have cooked some awesome steaks in my WFO. I haven't done chicken but I am sure it would be just as good. I also vote for concrete as your countertop choice. I have built my own for my inside bars and will eventually do my outside counters in concrete. Where are you located in Missouri? I have a friend that does some really nice concrete countertop work if you are interested in contracting that work.Tom

[Archena]

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dmun, your link does mention it. By pure dumb luck I happened to see it.

2113.15 Flue area (appliance). Chimney flues shall not be smaller in area than the area of the connector from the appliance. Chimneyfluesconnectedtomorethanone appliance shall notbeless thantheareaofthe largest connector plus50 percent of the areas of additional chimney connectors.

Exceptions:

1. Chimneyfluesservingoil-firedappliancessizedin accordance with NFPA 31.

2. Chimneyfluesservinggas-firedappliancessizedin accordance with theInternational Fuel Gas Code.

The typos are theirs. Evidently they were running out of blank spaces...

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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19bDavid, Here is a link to where I obtained this info... THere is also a disclaimer that of course all final rulings are determined by your local building dept..... THeres a lot of useful info there if you can sort thru it all

Mark

[dmun]

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Flues may slope to join with other flues so as to discharge through a common flue

Is this true? I thought that two gas appliances (e.g. a boiler and a hot water heater) could vent to a common flue, but that two solid fuel appliances could not. I looked in the IBC but I couldn't find this bit.

In any event, your building inspector is the final arbitrator of all code questions.

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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Residential chimneys generally fall into two categories: 1) chimneys serving fireplaces, and 2) chimneys serving appliances. While there are dissimilarities between the two types, they both serve the same basic functions. It is worthwhile, therefore, to consider their similarities. Both are constructed of similar materials and must meet the same building code requirements. Even though they may convey different combustion by-products at different velocities, they both must be designed and constructed to discharge these by-products at a rate that does not adversely affect the combustion process and to release the discharged material at a height and location that provides fire safety.

Flues may slope to join with other flues so as to discharge through a common flue, or to achieve the desired location of the chimney. The maximum allowable slope is 30 deg from vertical. When combining flues the main discharge flue should be sized for the maximum combined flow from the smaller flues. Combining flues of dissimilar systems or fuels. i.e., appliances and fireplaces, is not allowed by many building codes. Separate flues may be incorporated into one chimney so long as minimum wall thickness requirements are met and a full wythe of brick is laid between them and bonded to the chimney walls.

You can find more info here 19b Hope this helps and not too much mumbo jumbo,,,,