Will this work for under oven insulation

[Greenman]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

A 4 inch layer of vermicrete sounds about right. No overkill there.

That is what many of us have used. Your are on the right track.

[cook4fun]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Hello everyone - love the free flow of ideas...I'd like some final planning guidance as I get ready as well...I'm planning on: finishing the concrete stand "topped" with a 4 inch layer of either vermiculite or perlite (4:1 ratio mixed with portland cement), followed by a layer of fire brick, followed by the FB insulation board...and on top of that the hearth of the oven.

I realize this may be a bit much...but as a distinguished graduate of the U.S. Army's "School of Overkill"...and having frequently used overwhelming combat power to ensure mission success...I'm just following doctrine !

But, I don't want to over-do it too much either...greatly appreciate everyone's experiences and expertise.

Thanks !

[kbartman]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Kbartman always nice to hear from another sparky. How do you like your 40" oven? That is what I am planning. I fingered it was a nice balance of bigger size but not too big of a footprint.

Randy

I love my oven. I would like to be able to put a fire in it more often,But my work schedule has had me very busy.

The residual heat is useful and more often used then for a fired meal. So insulate well I put 4" of inches FB board below my floor, glad I did.

My 40" is plenty big, although when cooking in several pots and pans I wish it where bigger.

Due to my incorporating my oven within a existing block structure I decided on the 40" which is actually a 39" due to my fire brick size on the final purchase. The next size oven would have been a 48" to make maximum use of the bigger foot print. I not sure there would any benefit in building something in the middle due to added cost vs. wasted materials.

Best of luck with your builds and keep those sparks flying

[RandyJ]

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Yeah I called back the guy that I was going to buy it from and asked if would support the weight of 10 or so bricks stacked on it and he said no. I thought I had made it clear what it was I was looking for, but I guess we got some signals crossed. I am going down to his shop on Monday to take a look at what he has and see if I can find an alternative that he has in stock. I thank you all for the help and advice.

Kbartman always nice to hear from another sparky. How do you like your 40" oven? That is what I am planning. I fingered it was a nice balance of bigger size but not too big of a footprint.

Randy

[GianniFocaccia]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Out of curiosity I inquired with Plibrico and the response from a VP was that they did not recommend the Plisulate 1900 BLOCK for anything structural.

[kbartman]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

I am a commercial / industrial construction electrician,so i am fairly good at building things even if I have not done it before. I know it has helped on other projects.

Randy

The company that I am getting my insulation and fire bricks from has offered this to me for the board insulation. I am just wondering if it is a good match. I am also planning to do 4" of vermiculite concrete. It is cheep just over 100$ for 24sqft of 2 "thick. Thanks for the help.

Randy

Hello Randy,
Been a while since I have posted anything and just want to say hey to another sparky...........Looks like you and I are in the same line a work. Working along the with many different tradesmen's thru the years has been a great value to me and has helped my build be a success. Wish you well with your build............................ Just want to let you know that Plibrico supplied me with several of my refractory materials. Floor Insulation was not one of them. I think the compression strength is the important factor in your decision. I ended up buying my floor insulation from FB. Plibrico, local to me would have to special order it in, so I would have to pay the shipping. I used materials they had on stock. I never got a spec sheet from them on the floor insulation. I would gather more specs on floor insulation of different manufactures and from Plibrico and compare. My FB board floor insulation is performing well and was the lowest price I could find even with the added shipping, it was my best option at the time.

Hope this helps.

[GianniFocaccia]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

According to the Plisulate 1900 Block Insulation MSDS, its mineral wool. I'd use it.

http://plibrico.com/uploads/MSDS/sds%20Plisulate%201900%20Block.pdf

[RandyJ]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Thanks that is kinda what I was thinking I love the price but a few dollars is not worth getting the wrong thing, and having problems afterwards.

Randy

[NCMan]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

It really doesn`t tell you what it is! I wouldn`t chance it, I would go with something proven.

Great advice. It's not like you can change it later. Not a place to take that chance.

[Laurentius]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

It really doesn`t tell you what it is! I wouldn`t chance it, I would go with something proven.

[RandyJ]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

I tried to find a page but it was sent to me as a PDF I was trying to do it on my phone with a screen shot. Now I will try with my iPad . Our computer is not working right now so here goes nothing.

Randy

[Gulf]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Randy,
How about including a link to the page.

[RandyJ]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Or maby this. I don't know why they are so small???

[RandyJ]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

Sorry about that I did not realize that it was so small. Let's try this one I think I got it bigger this time.

Randy

[texman]

Re: Will this work for under oven insulation

i can't read the details. Can you repost a larger pic?
i can see refractory in the description which more than likely means it will work.

Texman