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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Moved on well over the last few days. Chimney inner completed, just not sure about height. Will build up the sides first and the stone up to it and if needs be go higher before putting the roof on. The first small fire was lit this morning, after a few small ones I eill start to stoke it up and burn out all the wood inside..

    Oh I forgot, with the door closed I can actually put the fire out, so good air tight seal. Need to trim the face bricks back a little more as can't quite open the door fully...grrrrr yup a clanger, I guess it had to happen.....lol
    Last edited by Burning pizzas in Surrey; 02-05-2011, 06:45 AM.

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Originally posted by brickie in oz View Post
    And you wouldnt want to miss that one day would you?

    Is there anything you have to do to make the olives edible straight off the tree?
    I doubt it, as I understand it they have to go in salt water or boiled first. Just a shame they can't produce a fosters tree.....now that would be worth planting....

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  • brickie in oz
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    Originally posted by Burning pizzas in Surrey View Post
    .......summer is getting closer......
    And you wouldnt want to miss that one day would you?

    Is there anything you have to do to make the olives edible straight off the tree?

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Originally posted by turkey View Post
    now that is a well established tree, very nice in fact too nice, I think the wife would love an olive tree. In double fact she would probably make me scrap the pizza plan and just get her one of them if she say so lucky she is not interested in the forums I read.

    You really are well under way, just looks like insulation to go, are you making bbaq to the side or just a prep area?

    btw how big is your oven, as it looks pretty huge

    Funny that, i'm glad my Mrs doesn't read the forums I look at either, I told her the olive was ?75 .... ok a little white lie...

    Yes to a bbq to the very left and a prep area in between. The insulation was completed today along with the chimney. An inch of the Fondu went on as a screed followed by an insulation blanket held on with chicken wire, then a further one inch of Fondu over the top and then 2 inches of lime mortar. If that wont hold heat in I shall knock the lot down using a tooth pick and my wifes whitt...

    Internal dimensions are 24x42 approx.

    The frontal opening will be completed today and the stone work will continue up to roof height over the next few days and the fire up if I get a chance will be Sunday depending how the lime has set.....or not!

    I hope to have the roof on by the end of next week and the bbq area completed by the following week...weather permitting.

    The only issue I'm struggling with is casting concrete for a seating area, trying to get the colour right is a nightmare. I tried using snowcrete and it just crumbles or easily chipped and nothing in between. I was going to use stone, but the cost is far too much, ?1000 for a small seating area is "exractine urine" for the want of a better phrase!

    You have got to get a move on....summer is getting closer......

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  • turkey
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    now that is a well established tree, very nice in fact too nice, I think the wife would love an olive tree. In double fact she would probably make me scrap the pizza plan and just get her one of them if she say so lucky she is not interested in the forums I read.

    You really are well under way, just looks like insulation to go, are you making bbaq to the side or just a prep area?

    btw how big is your oven, as it looks pretty huge

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Oh, you might have wondered what the raised box (planter) is for on the right of the oven, I bought myself a prezzie....

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Originally posted by turkey View Post
    that isnt a bad price for the bricks, if I had been stone cold sober I dont think I would have brought the bricks off ebay but in the end it was a good deal but a right pain in the rear to collect and caused a lot of knock on pain so in hindsight I possibly should have just gone with my initial plan for clay but you live and learn

    would be great to see some more recent pics, and some images of this fondu and your hearth slab
    I don't have the earlier pics, the builder does as my camera went AWOL, however I do have a pic where you can see the oven base. This was 4" thick made from lime motar and steel, the vermiculite board is on top. You can clearly see the brick height difference showing the oven floor area, those bing the raised bricks. The other pic is showing the black mortar and the first screed in the same fondu mix.

    Note; the Fondu is very hard to use, but very effective i'm told, but then again every person that has gone through this complains about what ever material is used so I assume its part and parcel.

    You may have guessed i'm doing the barrell type and not the "igloo" style as this would have taken far too long. I have used 190 bricks so far and about a further 10 to complete the chimney. 3 x 25KG bags of Fondu, 4 tons of stone, 3 tons of builders sand, 3 tons of sharp sand, 6 tons of ballast, 50 building blocks and I seem to remember 10 bags of portland. oh and shed loads of paving slabs!

    I am playing about with the white portland at the moment as the ballustrade and seting areas need to be sorted yet so still a fair bit to do. Above quantities are approximate only.



    Ahhh , nearly forgot, dont use a round topped door as it won't open if recessed like I had done, major changes had to done after....but it works now!!!

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  • turkey
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    that isnt a bad price for the bricks, if I had been stone cold sober I dont think I would have brought the bricks off ebay but in the end it was a good deal but a right pain in the rear to collect and caused a lot of knock on pain so in hindsight I possibly should have just gone with my initial plan for clay but you live and learn

    would be great to see some more recent pics, and some images of this fondu and your hearth slab

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Originally posted by turkey View Post
    just down the road then, I am over in Mitcham, I was expecting you to say Guildford or somewhere equally green and leafy.

    very nice block work, I hear the ? pain, I was planning a budget clay build but then I won some firebricks off ebay but had to drive down to southampton to pick them up (and hire a van) i think they where a good buy... but got to get onto some construction now as all I have is a pile of bricks.

    re using a board its probably the best material with regards to heat, strength and performance but this costs...

    I think I will be using thermalite blocks in mine as they are cheap as chips.
    Mitcham's not far at all. I used thermolite as the inner skin and the stone as the outer skin with a 3 inch gap and tied together. The fire bricks I got from Vitcas at ?1.60 plus VAT plus delivery at ?35 so not the end of the world. I'll post some more pics up shortly as its moved on a fair bit since the last pic. By the way i'm not doing the stone work myself, a mate who lives nearby is doing it for me and he charges a very good day rate so if you get stuck send me a pm and i'll drop you his details.

    Shoyld be in a position to burn some pizzas by end of Feb I hope....

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  • turkey
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    just down the road then, I am over in Mitcham, I was expecting you to say Guildford or somewhere equally green and leafy.

    very nice block work, I hear the ? pain, I was planning a budget clay build but then I won some firebricks off ebay but had to drive down to southampton to pick them up (and hire a van) i think they where a good buy... but got to get onto some construction now as all I have is a pile of bricks.

    re using a board its probably the best material with regards to heat, strength and performance but this costs...

    I think I will be using thermalite blocks in mine as they are cheap as chips.

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Originally posted by turkey View Post
    they look ok

    something like this

    Calcium Silicate 1000GD : Kiln Linings, Best Site for Kiln Maintainance and Repair Materials

    they do kits for pizza ovens so if you called them and let them know what you need I am sure they could work it out,

    btw what part of sunny Surrey are you in ? good to see not only fellow Britts but fellow Surrey folk

    Hiya, thanks for the reply, i'm in Worcester Park, near Epsom. I have gone the board route for the oven, only for ease and being lazy......hope I don't pay the price later. I'm sure I wont......eeeeek


    I have found this site and the staff are really helpful; Ciment Fondu?

    This will be the mortar and screed. I will try to attach a pic or two. One thing mind, its costing me a fortune......

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  • uk_exile
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    Originally posted by Burning pizzas in Surrey View Post
    I tried to DL the pdf for building the pompey oven and it wont let me as I don't have a US postcode......

    now DL the file and says corrupted and wont open..... I guess I should go to the pub.....
    I had same problem, the zip from FB is corrupted. I solved it by googling the filename & then downloaded it from another site

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  • turkey
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    they look ok

    something like this

    Calcium Silicate 1000GD : Kiln Linings, Best Site for Kiln Maintainance and Repair Materials

    they do kits for pizza ovens so if you called them and let them know what you need I am sure they could work it out,

    btw what part of sunny Surrey are you in ? good to see not only fellow Britts but fellow Surrey folk

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  • Burning pizzas in Surrey
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    Originally posted by dmun View Post
    Vermiculite board is very old fashioned. They don't even make it over here any more. It's no more effective than vermiculite concrete as an insulation.

    If you need to keep your height down you need to spring for refractory mineral fiber board or calcium silicate (cal-sil) board, either one of which will suffice at two inches.

    Hi Dmun,

    Did you mean this type?

    High Temperature Process Equipment Engineering and Consulting

    and thanks for chipping in. Its most welcome...

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  • dmun
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    Vermiculite board is very old fashioned. They don't even make it over here any more. It's no more effective than vermiculite concrete as an insulation.

    If you need to keep your height down you need to spring for refractory mineral fiber board or calcium silicate (cal-sil) board, either one of which will suffice at two inches.

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