Brickwork practice in garden

[cynon767]

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Try rock and gravel or landscaping supply places. It also has the benefit of being cheaper than pea gravel and far, far easier to walk on than rough 1/2 or 3/4 crush. It looks basically like something halfway between sand and gravel, and compacts to something that looks alot like bare dirt but doesn't get muddy. It's alot like the old cinder track surface so many of us remember from high school gym and track.

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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and laid down some decomposed granite in the rest of the yard

never heard of it ?? is it something you can buy at home desperate ??Sounds nice and the yard looks great

Cheers
Mark

[cynon767]

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So the winter garden is transplanted and thriving, so far. The plants are still small but they're getting established quickly. I think we've mostly gotten the weeds under control, and we have the yard pretty much cleaned up. It no longer looks quite so much like a construction zone, which makes my wife quite happy. We cleaned off the brick patio, leveled off the ground between the beds, and laid down some decomposed granite in the rest of the yard... cleaner than dirt, lower maintenance than grass, more comfortable than gravel. Our daughter Mira can now play outside without too much danger, and we can get on with our outdoor living... just in time for winter!

For the winter, we planted cabbage (red and white), kale, bok choy, arugula, lettuce (romaine, red leaf, and buttercrunch), onions (red, white, and yellow), broccoli, cauliflower, swiss chard, and garlic.

[cynon767]

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My yard is a little small for that. At this point, if you didn't know they were there below the surface, you wouldn't notice them at all. But they're there...

Before long, I'm gonna have nightmares of them coming through the walls...

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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just one more thought,, How about one of those weed burners they sell at harbor freight that hooks up to a propane tank

Mark

[cynon767]

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For the ordinary weeds, that might work; once the garden is planted, I'll definitely give it a try. For the trumpet vines, though, not so much. I'm caught in a bit of a bind, since I want to use the garden for vegetables and don't want to use any too-aggressive long-lingering poison. Initially I tried to go poison-free and just dig up the roots, but they are extensively branching, and when one section is dug up it resprouts from a new node. I've been using roundup, since that does not stay in the soil, but it is difficult. Because the vines store so much energy in their roots, it's more of an ongoing campaign than a single battle; they keep sending up new shoots all over the yard. I've dug up as much of the network of roots as I could, but they're not gone yet. So, I poison new shoots and wait for that to work its way back to the root... lather, rinse, repeat...

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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Hey Jamie,
Lookin good so far, Nice Job See if this helps you Spray Weeds With Vinegar? / May 15, 2002 / News from the USDA Agricultural Research Service ts about killing weeds and plants with vinegar If it works, Im sure you can water enough to make the residual vinegar go away before you plant...
Nice work,, keep going,,,
Mark

[cynon767]

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Along with the oven progress, I've gotten the garden bed walls mostly sorted out. No dirt or plants yet; I'm still fighting off the invasion of the triffids before I do that.

[cynon767]

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Are you going to put a cap on the tops of the walls?

yes, definitely. I have not decided on brick yet; I have been hoping to find another deal like the one I got on the jumbo cored bricks I made the walls with. They were on clearance for $40 for the pallet of 400. 10 cents a brick? not gonna argue, even if I have to work a bit to make them fit!

Now if I can find something that either matches closely enough for a reasonable price, I'll use that; alternately, I'll look for a contrasting brick for visual effect.

[blacknoir]

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Are you going to put a cap on the tops of the walls?

[cynon767]

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Following instructions from various gardening and masonry sites, I made the foundations about 8" deep and about 2" wider than the brick on each side, for about an 8"x8" trench, with lightweight rebar to keep the foundation stable under the brick.

Eventually, the beds will be filled with a compost/topsoil blend, mixed with the local dirt, which should provide a pretty fertile ground for the garden. They're about 18" deep, and with some vermiculite mixed in to maintain the loose consistency, should provide a great medium for vegetables.

[blacknoir]

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Jamie, the garden is an awesome idea! How thick & wide did you make the cement foundation for the garden walls?

[cynon767]

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After weeks of fighting a grueling war of attrition with the weeds and vines that have colonized our yard, we've decided to give the garden a pass for the summer and concentrate on making sure that the invaders are fully eradicated before proceeding on to enriching the soil with compost and planting a garden.

Someone decided, once upon a time, to make the yard lush with hanging vines and foliage, so they planted an unholy combination of Virginia creeper, trumpet vine, and ivy. It's like Day of the Triffids out there. We have been digging out the extensive network of roots, section by section, for a couple of months now. It's a tedious and arduous experiment in both patience and endurance. Find a new shoot of fast-growing vine, dig up the area and remove the roots, wait a couple of days until the next section of roots sends up shoots, repeat...

We were trying to do without toxic weed-killer, as this is intended to be a vegetable garden, but after researching this and working piecemeal for this long, we've become a little more flexible. Hence we're holding off on the garden. I've read that with vines this tenacious, even high-potency poisons have trouble, since the root networks are so extensive and store so much energy. Plus, some of the poisons used for brush control stay in the soil longer than plain glyphosate (roundup). So, following advice from some of the gardening forums, rather than get a more toxic spray, I got the glyphosate concentrate and simply brushed it onto the leaves and new growth of the vines. I am hoping that this combined strategy of chemical and conventional attack will lead to victory.

Until then, I've turned my construction attention back to the oven. The stand is almost finished, and when we do the concrete slab for the hearth, we'll do the bench along the center bed as well.

[cynon767]

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Getting the hang of using the brickset to cut the angled corners on the rounded bed was a bit of a trick, but in the end wasn't too hard. The biggest difficulty came from the fact that I was using cored bricks, which had a tendency to split along the cell walls if I wasn't careful. With a bit of practice, though, I was able to get a relatively presentable (if rather rustic) angled corner.

[cynon767]

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Soon, those blocks on the straight side of the front bed will become the foundation for a bench, and the beds will be filled with dirt and planted. The Sacramento Valley is one of the worlds best tomato growing climates, so I'm looking forward to trying my hand at growing San Marzano tomatoes!