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  • dmorgs
    Serf
    • Nov 2011
    • 2

    #1

    Lightweight Concrete

    I'm thinking of pouring an in place, lightweight concrete chimney (vermeculite). Also, I'm going to apply an insulating coat on my dome with lightweight. The dome is recently finished.
    Any of you with experience care to illustrate the difference in the two mixes. I read the section about this on the website but I'm a little confused, hoping to get a more basic understanding.
    Thanks, JJ
  • brickie in oz
    Il Pizzaiolo
    • Mar 2009
    • 3445

    #2
    Re: Lightweight Concrete

    Originally posted by dmorgs
    I'm thinking of pouring an in place, lightweight concrete chimney (vermeculite).
    I should imagine it would crumble and fall over.
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    • david s
      Il Pizzaiolo
      • Mar 2007
      • 9209

      #3
      Re: Lightweight Concrete

      Vermicrete is not particularly strong and the Portland cement breaks down at around 300C so you are most likely to have a failure.
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      • Johnny the oven man
        Journeyman
        • Jun 2008
        • 399

        #4
        Re: Lightweight Concrete

        Better of getting an insulating refractory castable, they do make a lightweight 1400c grade material. Not crumbly at all.

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        • brickie in oz
          Il Pizzaiolo
          • Mar 2009
          • 3445

          #5
          Re: Lightweight Concrete

          Originally posted by Johnny the oven man
          Better of getting an insulating refractory castable, they do make a lightweight 1400c grade material. Not crumbly at all.
          Out of vermiculite?
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          • david s
            Il Pizzaiolo
            • Mar 2007
            • 9209

            #6
            Re: Lightweight Concrete

            Johnny,
            I had difficulty finding one. What was offered to me as a lightweight castable was almost as dense as the dense castable I use. What is the density and the name of the product you're suggesting?
            Al,
            Vermiculite is only good for 1100 C so it must be different aggregates if it's good for 1400C
            Last edited by david s; 11-10-2011, 01:33 PM.
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            • Johnny the oven man
              Journeyman
              • Jun 2008
              • 399

              #7
              Re: Lightweight Concrete

              1400c LW is 1050kg/m3, 41% alumina,42% silica,15% cement. I will chase up the content info for you. Product is from Sila. They also make Silalite LW100, which is 1000c rated and is 800kg/m3, this would also do the trick.

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              • dmorgs
                Serf
                • Nov 2011
                • 2

                #8
                Re: Lightweight Concrete

                Okay then, clear enough I guess. What about the mix for the insulating layer?

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                • david s
                  Il Pizzaiolo
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 9209

                  #9
                  Re: Lightweight Concrete

                  Originally posted by dmorgs
                  Okay then, clear enough I guess. What about the mix for the insulating layer?
                  Vermicrete would be good for the insulating layer it doesn't need to be strong and won't be subjected to high heat.
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