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  • NCMan
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    Originally posted by ATK406 View Post
    @Mike I have reviewed your thread before but did not recognize what an efficient use of space you created under your oven - roll away carts and all. Probably because I had not yet realized what an utter waste of space I had designed with the 75 cuft "box" under my oven. Everyone thinking about building an oven (corner install, indoors or otherwise) should look at your thread - Awesome! Biggest mistake I made was not reading through the forum before I started my build - I downloaded the plans and went from there - not thinking there was that much to it and so many design options to consider. Yours should be required reading for future builders. Thanks again for sharing.

    Regards,
    AT
    I agree. Very nice looking job.

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  • ATK406
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    @Mike I have reviewed your thread before but did not recognize what an efficient use of space you created under your oven - roll away carts and all. Probably because I had not yet realized what an utter waste of space I had designed with the 75 cuft "box" under my oven. Everyone thinking about building an oven (corner install, indoors or otherwise) should look at your thread - Awesome! Biggest mistake I made was not reading through the forum before I started my build - I downloaded the plans and went from there - not thinking there was that much to it and so many design options to consider. Yours should be required reading for future builders. Thanks again for sharing.

    Regards,
    AT

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  • SableSprings
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    I built an oven ash dump slot just outside the reveal/landing area (where my fire door sits). The slot drops into a metal bin that's got a tight fitting cover. I clean out my oven before baking bread by pulling the bin cover back and then pulling coals & ash into the slot. Everything drops into the bin, I push the cover back on and let the coals smother and die -- out of my way. I bake 15 - 30 loaves on Fridays and normally need to dump the bin every other month if I'm burning hardwoods (minimum ash). I've been using the system since 2009 and it's worked like a charm (incidentally, I give most of the bread to my friends & neighbors).

    Photos show the slot in the foundation slab, the slot just in front of the reveal, the initial "propped up" ash bin, finished ash bin mounted on rails for pull-out, and the final view of the working oven. I have two doors, the heavy stainless steel one that's in place in pics 3 & 4 and a much lighter weight working door (the working door is visible on the left side of the oven in pics 3 & 5).

    Hope this helps.

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  • NCMan
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    I'm far from an expert, but will gladly share some photos of a foundation set up for an ash dump. I just thought it was a clever design and plan on using it when I get started. I won't post the photos here, but will be glad to email a photo, if you like. Other than that, you may want to do a search on here to see what some experienced builders have done w/ash dumps, etc. I'm just a newbie, here soaking up some knowledge.

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  • joerae
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    Getting really excited, ready to build oven love the idea of a ash dump. can you give me more info

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  • joerae
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    Originally posted by NCMan View Post
    I came across a WFO plan just the other day that incorporates a slot to scrape ashes, etc. into. It is located outside of the oven, behind where the door is located, so I don't think it would interfere w/either fresh air intake or heat loss. It also suggests making a cover for it when not in use. The cleanout for the ashes is actually on the side of the foundation, which I thought was a plus. If you want info, I could email you what info I have. I think it's a neat idea, but certainly not a necessity, rather a feature of convenience for the user. I plan to use it when I start my WFO soon.
    Getting ready to build , could you email me info as welll ?

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  • NCMan
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    Originally posted by rsandler View Post
    If I had it to do again, I'd build an ash drop into my oven. The metal dust pan/oven rake combo does a fine job, but it's hot, uncomfortable and messy if you're trying to clean out a very hot oven in order to make bread in a few hours.

    The challenge, I think, is that the ash-drop needs to be relatively big (otherwise you've traded fighting with the dust-pan to fighting with a tiny hole), and you have to be able to cover it. My notion, for my hypothetical second oven, would be to omit a the whole row of firebricks from the entry area (so, outside the door), and instead have a sheet of stainless steel that covers the gap, with the bricks front and back notched to allow the sheet to sit flush, and a hole or something to allow you to pick it up.
    That's pretty much what I am going to do. Other than the simple fact that I just plain like the idea. I also hopefully will be using my WFO and surrounding areas as a model for folks to see, if and when I decide to build them for others. It will be nice to have one w/a ash dump to show to folks. I do some masonry work for a living and hope to learn enough from building mine, in addition to the wealth of info here, to be able to build a few more. I already have put the WFO bug into a few ears and now people are waiting to see mine, etc. So, I guess if the weather gives me a few breaks here and there, I'll keep plugging away at it. I know I am infected w/the WFO Bug, since I am starting to lay awake at night w/my wheels spininn' about the project. Then, wake up thinking about it. Got that Bug bad, I do.
    Last edited by NCMan; 02-04-2014, 02:44 PM. Reason: Typo

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  • rsandler
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    If I had it to do again, I'd build an ash drop into my oven. The metal dust pan/oven rake combo does a fine job, but it's hot, uncomfortable and messy if you're trying to clean out a very hot oven in order to make bread in a few hours.

    The challenge, I think, is that the ash-drop needs to be relatively big (otherwise you've traded fighting with the dust-pan to fighting with a tiny hole), and you have to be able to cover it. My notion, for my hypothetical second oven, would be to omit a the whole row of firebricks from the entry area (so, outside the door), and instead have a sheet of stainless steel that covers the gap, with the bricks front and back notched to allow the sheet to sit flush, and a hole or something to allow you to pick it up.

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  • ATK406
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    I built mine without an ash dump but sometimes I wish I had one. As many have said, "it is no big deal to rake them up and shovel them into a steel bucket" - which is what I do. However there are a few times when that has been a bit of a hassle and I wish I could just sweep them into a hole and be done with it. I haven't finished my countertops yet, so I'm still contemplating something on mine.

    I have even designed (on paper) a vacuum system that would be stored under the hearth to suck the ashes out of the back - or reversed to blow onto the fire if I was having any difficulty with the fire. That really hasn't been an issue and I'm sure that I won't bother with that.

    Good luck with your dump - if you have not found them already, there are few cool designs out there on the forum already. Post some pictures of your progress.

    Regards,
    AT
    Last edited by ATK406; 02-13-2014, 10:07 PM. Reason: missing word

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  • NCMan
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    I like the idea, though. I realize everyone has their own preferences and opinions. I like the thought of just scraping them in and forgetting about the hot embers for awhile. That's just me, though. As they say, "to each his own". It'll be my first WFO and almost everyone would probably agree they learned a lot and would do at least one thing different the next time "if" they built again. Matter of fact, I recently read the thread about that subject (what folks would change). I might be on here a year or so from now saying I'd never do another ash dump.....time will tell, I guess. Or I might just be on here saying "there's nothing like a good dump".

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  • Tscarborough
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    I remove about a 2 and a half gallons of coals each time when prepping to cook. The coals either go into an almost airtight metal trashcan to turn into charcoal, or into the grill next to the oven if the menu requires grilling. It is a simple process to get them out of the oven into either place using a metal peel and a hoe.

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  • Gulf
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    Originally posted by stonecutter View Post
    I've never bothered with an ovens I have built, mainly because they run so hot they clean themselves. I started using my oven in July and haven't had to remove ashes yet.
    Dmn.........................................................

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  • stonecutter
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    Originally posted by NCMan View Post
    As I am still learning about WFO's, I am under the impression that some people desire them for cleaning out hot embers, etc., in preparation to cook things such as bread. As I said, still reading and learning here. As of right now, I still plan on installing one.
    Not sayin you shouldn't, but a metal bucket does the same job.

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  • NCMan
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    As I am still learning about WFO's, I am under the impression that some people desire them for cleaning out hot embers, etc., in preparation to cook things such as bread. As I said, still reading and learning here. As of right now, I still plan on installing one.

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  • stonecutter
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    I've never bothered with an ovens I have built, mainly because they run so hot they clean themselves. I started using my oven in July and haven't had to remove ashes yet.

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