Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
It might also help to build your entry support soon too. With the IT and the arch form, you can easily see where they intersect.
See someone smarter than me's explanation in my thread:
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
Thanks. I will definitely be building an IT. Sounds like I should have done that first rather than messing around with my current stuff. Perhaps I will have some time this weekend to get that done the parts are all in my garage.
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
Consider building an IT over using strings can be done inexpensively and will help you alot. I started on back half work towards arch. Do your best work back half and make adj front half where oops can't be seen.
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So I cut out what I think is the right dimensions for my floor. After reviewing threads I am still in a bit of confusion over where the area has needs to be placed which means I may in trouble for this build
Lol...
Anyways I marked my 16" entrance where it intersects with the interior of the oven(as circled in the pictures). I'm thinking that I will need to just make a cut to angle the arch piece and then make a a cut smaller than a half brick either beside each piece or where they meet in the middle.
I've read that you are supposed to start at the back and work towards the arch support bricks is that true with the first course as well or is it OK to make your last brick fit snug at the back?
I think once I get passed this I'll be less confused and perhaps a bit more confident... Just my first crack at masonry and it's bringing back memories(anxiety lol) of when I built a smoker last year with no previous welding experience... Once I got on a roll I was fine but was a slow starter with lots of oddball questions.
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Thanks I had looked at it before but will review it again.
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
I think it is probably a bad idea to put the arch inside the oven, the dome bricks might overhang at the top. In case you have not seen it, there is a great way to tie the arch into the dome that most new builders seem to use. I think GianniFocaccia's thread has a good example.Originally posted by thebigt View PostHad a bit of a frustrating night working on the floor layout/arch transition piece.
I'll post a picture later but what I did to draw my floor plan is the following:
1) Measured the middle and used a 16" piece of string to draw a complete circle
2) Used a second piece of string that was 20.5" long to draw the outline of the brick.
3)My door needs to be 16" wide so I measured out 8 inches from the center. Does the arch transition go where it intersects with the inner circle I drew in step 1? Is it ok if the arch is inside the oven a bit or is that bad?
Everything went well until I tried mocking up the brick layout and just gotta figure out that location of where the arch should intersect. If anyone has any advice I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
Had a bit of a frustrating night working on the floor layout/arch transition piece.
I'll post a picture later but what I did to draw my floor plan is the following:
1) Measured the middle and used a 16" piece of string to draw a complete circle
2) Used a second piece of string that was 20.5" long to draw the outline of the brick.
3)My door needs to be 16" wide so I measured out 8 inches from the center. Does the arch transition go where it intersects with the inner circle I drew in step 1? Is it ok if the arch is inside the oven a bit or is that bad?
Everything went well until I tried mocking up the brick layout and just gotta figure out that location of where the arch should intersect. If anyone has any advice I'd greatly appreciate it.Last edited by thebigt; 07-10-2014, 10:46 AM.
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
I did a 45 degree layout since my tapered bricks would not work with a herringbone pattern. I have not had any issues with my peel hitting the bricks but I did take an angle grinder after the floor was laid and knocked off any high spots which I would off done no matter what the pattern.1 Photo
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I like the herringbone look as well but always thought it was tougher than the 45 degree layout. Maybe I'll have to give it a whirl. I'm building on the garage floor first and not cutting bricks until I dry fit my first course which will sit on top of my floor. That way I can try it out both ways before making any cuts.Originally posted by Gulf View PostI don't think that it would make any difference. The angle that the peel hits is at a 45, in both syles. Mayabe, someone who has theirs placed on a 45 will weigh in. I just like the looks of the herringbone and it is really no more difficult than just placing them in on a 45
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
Neil how did you know how much to adjust it?Originally posted by boerwarrior View PostI didn't use the spreadsheet calculator. But yes, I did adjust my IT length as I went. I put a slot in the 'brick holder' and used a wing nut to secure it so that I could easily adjuts it from course to course
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Re: New 32" build in Saskatchewan, Canada
I don't think that it would make any difference. The angle that the peel hits is at a 45, in both syles. Mayabe, someone who has theirs placed on a 45 will weigh in. I just like the looks of the herringbone and it is really no more difficult than just placing them in on a 45
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I didn't use the spreadsheet calculator. But yes, I did adjust my IT length as I went. I put a slot in the 'brick holder' and used a wing nut to secure it so that I could easily adjuts it from course to course
Neil
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