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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Thanks Mark!

    The last tasks were cosmetic. Applied brick veneer to the concrete block base and lintel. That was my first experience installing brick veneer, using concrete pigment and handling a grout bag.


    Finished with a dry laid stone wall (yet another reminder that I’m no longer 25) to keep the bank at bay and some stone to dress up the perimeter of the stand. My wife used the space behind the oven to add more native plants for our pollinators. Interesting note, the more uniform stone to the left of the stand are reclaimed curb stones from when streets were modernized on the south side of Pittsburgh.

    Daughter gave me a plaque to ID the location of the time capsule for an early birthday present.

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  • MarkJerling
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    That looks very tidy!

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Next, a few more finishing details.

    Daughter fabricated caps for the exposed ends of the beams from rolled aluminum flashing.
    There was a remnant just long enough to make a trim plate for the stack.

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Ran into a challenge with the vent. The kit has a pre-cast refractory flue gallery with a stainless steel insert. The insert is ringed with ceramic fiber rope to allow for expansion. The insert is designed to accept the male end of the supplied 36” single wall stainless pipe. I needed to transition to a double wall pipe to penetrate the roof. The transition collar for the double-wall system I was using needs to mate to the male end of the single-wall pipe. I tried for a couple hours to crimp, cut and bend the insert to make it fit into the transition collar. I had minimal success and it looked terrible. I was about ready to go to the sheet metal shop and have a new insert made. Then, I realized I had no use for the kit’s single wall pipe so I cut the male end off and fabricated a new insert. The insert has fins that are bent once it is inserted to secure it to the underside of the flue gallery. That pipe was tough stuff to cut even with my trusty angle grinder, but I was happy with the result.

    You can also see in the closeup that the final dome coating has been applied. It is a brush-on waterproof acrylic render. You may recall from an earlier post that I placed ceramic fiber rope around the flue gallery to act as a curb for the last layer of concrete render and to isolate them from each other. I did this because the kit supplied 2” of blanket and when I doubled that the dome encroached further onto the flue gallery and some fine cracks appeared in the second layer of pericrete radiating from the flue gallery the next time I fired the oven. There are now two layers of the acrylic render encapsulating the rope and I’m happy to report there weren’t any cracks after a full firing.

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Next, a little cosmetic work.

    Had a large slab of flagstone salvaged from a landscaping project done about 20 yrs ago. Used the angle grinder to cut and fit some pieces to extend the patio to the edge of the slab. I had planned for about an inch curb to keep the storage area dry.

    Tapped the daughter’s artistic eye to epoxy the seams in the granite landing then polished it with the slower-speed angle grinder.

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    The roof covering is 1”x 6” T&G knotty pine (SPAR Urethane), ½” plywood, Tyvek, drip edge and asphalt shingles.

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Time to put this baby to bed!

    Sonotubes were placed at the rear of the site early on while the locations were more accessible. They were filled with the excess concrete from the slab-on-grade delivery. The remaining three post footings were dug and filled in preparation for the rest of the support posts.

    The pavilion roof is supported by 5 ground-contact treated posts, 3 – 6”x6” on the “back” corners and 2 – 4”x4” on either side of the oven opening. The ridge beam, side beams, rafters and rafter ties are 4”x 6“ treated.

    The hardware is the Simpson Strong Tie system.

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Thanks Mike (SableSprings ), high praise from a neighborhood bread sage! Yeah, she had just made a batch of granola the week before. We also missed a couple days when we could have roasted some meats and veggies. It was a busy 4th weekend and I didn't plan well. I had to prep my sourdough early so it had to have 2 days of cold ferment. I hadn't done that before, but it turned out okay. I'm going to need to set up a separate Google calendar for the oven until I get the hang of it . I had forgot reading about Joe's Possum Korn. Thanks for the reminder.

    xvandish you have much more elegant plans than I do. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. I'm going pretty straightforward as my site has some awkward topography. I just need something to keep the rain from running down the back of my neck as I cook . Fortunate to have an architect daughter to plan it.

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  • xvandish
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    Originally posted by Giovanni Rossi View Post
    Thanks xvandish. I still have cosmetic finishes to do and build a pavilion plus some landscaping, but I'm going to enjoy using the oven this year.
    Great looking bread! Now I want some....

    Ah, I'm going to be (or at least planning on) doing the same thing (pavilion/gazebo)! What style do you have in mind for yours?

    I was initially going to do a pergola with concrete roman columns, and actually bought forms to do so and made a few columns and a base, but I don't think it's going to look great (was planning on experimenting with limewashes), and it'd also be so much weight, each individual piece of the column is ~100lbs, and each column is ~9 pieces. Last I stopped working on them, I was trying to hollow them out enough to make them lightweight.

    Here's a picture for the general idea - I was planning on planting grape vines at each column as well. If you're interested in the forms, they're made by a company called History Stones. I attached a few pictures as idea-reference.

    Think I'm going to maybe go the easy route instead and buy a metal gazebo.

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  • SableSprings
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    Great looking loaves & other baked items! It's really nice to see you taking full advantage of a firing through the cool down days. Now comes the clamor from friends & relatives to be on the recipient list for the next bake... I went to mostly baguettes for my giveaways because I could bake a batch of 8-10 at a time & each batch was done in 15 minutes at 575F. You'll also both appreciate not having to fire up the inside oven during the hot days of summer! Don't forget to try making your own granola as the oven drops into the lower temp bake zone. I also highly recommend trying the corn in the husk technique that Gulf posted a ways back...Possum Korn in the Roasting & Grilling section.
    Last edited by SableSprings; 07-10-2023, 07:28 AM.

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Thanks Russell. My wife's 2nd love (I think) is hiking, backpacking and camping. She's excited to be able to make her own healthy, nutritious and lightweight snacks!

    Slow but steady progress between rainy days. Final coat on the landing support.

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  • UtahBeehiver
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    Nice looking bread, my bread skills are pretty caveman. Never thought of drying fruit, good idea,

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    Thanks xvandish. I still have cosmetic finishes to do and build a pavilion plus some landscaping, but I'm going to enjoy using the oven this year.

    This is my first go at non-pizza in this beast. It’s going to be fun learning how best to use it for retained heat cooking.

    I haven’t yet fabricated an insulated door. I noted the temps every 12 hours after firing for pizza. I waited until the flame died and there were just embers then placed the steel door that evening. The probe end of the thermometer is about 2.75” from the inside face of the dome so it should be a good indicator of heat saturation of the brick. I typically keep my fire on the opposite side of the dome from the thermometer so the increase in temp the next AM is a good indicator of the dome coming to equilibrium via conduction.

    All of the starting temperatures were higher than I normally use so everything baked faster than normal. Next time I’m going to try cracking the door to bleed some heat while cooking.

    07/02 2100 475oF (246 oC) Closed oven
    07/03 0900 525oF (274 oC)
    Sourdough bread on parchment on the oven floor
    07/03 2100 500oF (260 oC)
    Hamburger rolls for the 4th on sheet pan raised on cooling racks.
    07/04 0900 460oF (238 oC)
    Cornbread in cast iron skillet
    07/04 2100 340oF (171 oC)
    07/05 0900 290oF (143 oC)
    07/05 2100 260 oF (126 oC)
    07/06 0900 220 oF (104 oC)
    07/06 2100 200 oF (93 oC)
    07/07 0900 180 oF (82 oC)
    07/07 2100 160 oF (71 oC)
    Dehydrated fruit
    07/08 0900 140 oF (60 oC)

    It's cool that I can use commercial full-size sheet pans.

    Really happy with the heat retention. Not sure if I even need to fabricate an insulated door. It seems as though the front of the oven is a little cooler, so an insulated door may help with that?? Still a lot to learn.


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  • xvandish
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    That granite landing looks really nice, and agreed with Mark, the inside of your oven looks awesome! Hope you're getting great use out of the oven so far

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  • Giovanni Rossi
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    I know some of the Forum members like to make their own oven tools so I’ll toss in this experience. I had an aluminum peel with a short wooden handle my father made me years ago for my gas grill pizza sessions. I was reaching my DIY limit and I wanted one with a larger blade and longer handle, so I just ordered one. I was worried it wouldn’t arrive in time for our next party this past Sunday so I tried to modify the one I had...the new one landed on Sat at 7PM.

    I couldn’t find an aluminum tube longer than 36” at a local big box so I grabbed 2 of them. It took a bit of searching for a solution to join them and keep a smooth surface. The tubes are 3/4“ and I found a 3/8” stainless steel nipple with tapered threads on each end. I don’t have a tap large enough so I just used the nipple and some cutting fluid to make the threads in the aluminum. It took some time, but worked well. The rods tightened fast to each other.

    I ended up using both peels and the joint held up well. Just debating on whether to add some thread lock or leave as is so I can change back and forth from short to long handles.

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