FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Yep, thought I'd just go ahead with it.

Thanks

[david s]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Just put it on and see how it works.

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Hi David

I've taken a photo of how the vent will look over the entrance of my oven.

A friend held the box in place while i took the photo. Excuse the voids in the casted dome pieces, will be sorting those out when assembling the oven.

Let me know what your think.

Thanks
Regards
OM

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Ok, I'll try and grab a better picture tomorrow when there's better lighting.

I was also thinking of just going ahead and using it since theoretically speaking, it is directly above the entrance and should still draw the smoke although the flue pipe and vent will be slanted.

The other option is modify my current mould so its straight; just dreading doing that but worst comes to worst, I may have to.

[david s]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Sorry, I don't really understand your explanation. Maybe you can place it on the oven and take another photo., or just do it, we're all experimenting.

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Hi Guys

My words do no justice like that of a picture. It does tell a thousand words.
I've managed to take a box and slant it in a similar way as the vent will be slanting in my oven.

Hope it makes better sense than my description.

Thanks
Regards
OM

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Hi Guys

I've finally completed the mould design of my vent (took me over a month going back and forth with different ideas) and upon completion just realised that I may have errored in my design.

My final design was a boxed vent, 16" in length, 9" in breadth and 7" in height. The mould was designed such that it curves exactly the same shape as the oven. What I forgot to keep in mind is the vent is now slanting at a 45 degree angle above the entrance (sorry, I aint too good in maths so the degree is just an estimate).


I hope this example makes sense but if I were to lift my head as far back as possible looking towards the sky while keeping my back as straight as possible is the same direction my vent is facing.

Should I have any concerns or can I go straight ahead and start casting it.

Sorry guys, can't take a photo, phone camera has no flash and its pitch black outside.

Thanks
Regards
OM

[david s]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

If it were mine I'd go with the first option. 1" of concrete is likely to crack.
Don't know the area of your dome. Calculate it by 4x 3.142 x r x r then halve it because you have a hemisphere.
Yes the mortar will stick to the insulating board.

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Hi Guys

Please help with these questions.

1) Which will work best. Add a 3mm metal sheet ontop of the slat or cover with a thin layer +-1" of concrete.

2) How much Ceramic Blanket would i need?

3) Does mortar stick directly onto Cermaic Board or do i have to put something else over it before i add the mortar?

Thanks again, much appreciated for all your assistance.

Regards
OM

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Point Taken.

So I would guess I have 2 options.

1) Place a 3-5mm metal sheeting over the slats and place the FB ontop

2) Add a thin layer of concrete ontop of the slats and FB ontop.

What about the oven floor and dome; can I smear mortar directly over the FB and let the floor and dome sit directly ontop?

Thanks
Regards
OM

[dmun]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Can i lay my ceramic board directly over the top?

Over the top of those thin cross slats? I wouldn't. Insulation has tremendous compressive strength, if you spread the load around, but a thin blade like cross bar will push right into (through?) it.

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

I've been looking for Ceramic Blanket and it just struck me now that I'm not sure how much I need.
My oven dimenions again is a inner diameter of 24" and my dome is 3" thick. The ceramic blanket comes in rolls of 7Meters (Length) X 610MM (Breadth) X 50mm (Thickness). Would it be possible to wrap it around the oven more than once?

Thanks
Regards

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Hi David

That's one of the reasons i sent it back. I felt it needed to be streghntened more.

Can i lay my ceramic board directly over the top?
Will Mortar stick onto ceramic board?


Thanks
Regards

[david s]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

If that were my stand I would be sending it back the fabricator and getting diagonals welded on, especially as you are planning to move it around in a vehicle or trailer. Ovens are heavy.
I think your 3" floor should be fine. My first oven had a 3" firebrick floor and it fired fine.

[Oven_Man]

Re: FINALLY!!! - Start Of Building My Oven

Hi Guys

There has been a little progress with my Oven. My Oven Trolley has been completed but I've sent it back for a few more mods though it won't look much different than what's attached.

I'm jumping the gun a bit and couldn't help but think the next phase of this project i.e. Joining all the pieces together.
My plan is as follows but feel free to correct me if you find any flaw or forsee any problems.

1) I will be laying 2" of ceramic board ontop of the trolley. My concern is what will the ceramic board stick to, to hold it in place? Should i maybe place a layer of thin steel sheeting or can i lay the board directly on the trolley as you see the trolley in the pic.

2) Directly ontop of the ceramic board will be the Firebrick. I will smear some Mortar on the ceramic board and place the bricks. Will mortar hold onto the ceramic board or steel for that matter? Any other recommendations?

3) I've read that one should use Medium Duty Firebrick with atleast 38% alumina and +-2 to 2.5 inches thick. I did find a supplier but the thickness is 3" and feel it may be too thick and take too long to heat up. Am i correct in my thinking.

4) My dome will sit around the firebrick,covered with about 1/2" mortar and then wrapped with 2" ceramic blanket ontop of which 1" of perlite or whatever other insulating cement i can find ontop of which some stucco or paint, which ever is easier to find. I should also mention i will be strapping the dome down with steel belts to hold it in place. Any flaws in this thought?

Thanks guys
Again, please comment on my thought above and correct me if anything seems a miss.

By the way guys, i found this link http://fornobravo.com/commercial_piz...istorante.html in James thread about Oven Opening Size but it doesn't seem to work. I'd really like to see what james is talking about since I'm anticipating similar issues and this will be a perfect work around. Please let me know if you have an alternate link or maybe someone can post a picture here.

Regards
OM