Tile saw Needed or not?

[Filthymutt]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

The blade that comes with the saw as you can imagine has gravel in it rather than diamond, it barely cut and slowly at that.

I bought a good one off ebay and it has hardly worn after many cuts.

For this one they asked me what I would be cutting and what kind of blade I want. So, if they give me something else I will ship it back to them.

Haven't completely made up my mind to buy yet.

[brickie in oz]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

The blade that comes with the saw as you can imagine has gravel in it rather than diamond, it barely cut and slowly at that.

I bought a good one off ebay and it has hardly worn after many cuts.

[Filthymutt]

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Craigs list yes, hadn't thought of that. Thanks

[mikku]

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Don't think about shipping the saw...don't need one.
Hope you figure out the best way to get a workable oven going for you.
I have many...many...thousands of dollars worth of tools that are seldom used.
There must be a craigs type list over there for expats. I'm sure you will find someone who wants a saw for a little less than your cost! All will work out in the wash!

[Filthymutt]

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yes, counter tops.
They are called "ginko di-e-seki", I don't know the proper Japanese terms but the term means "imitation stone". There are a lot of manufacturers of imitation stone counters in china. Some are very nice and the price is cheap. You might check it out ...they also have precast sinks and all the accessories like faucets, tailpieces, strainer baskets and the works for doing a great looking counter.

the counters come polished and ready to install. I did an installation in Yokosuka, Kanagawa prefecture where the customer purchased all his stuff from China and imported it. Everything came out fantastic. his tops were top of the line and his accessories all worked out great. he is one happy camper!

I may have a look in some of the kitchen design shops. But I'm already building the forms for a poured top. Was planning to pour my kitchen counter top at the same time as my hearth. All one piece.

Looking at the Outdoor Kitchen posts in the forum made me really want to do the stained concrete top. They look quite nice.

Not quite sure yet if I am going with a gas grill for the BBQ or the traditional style. Not had good luck with gas grills, rusting out etc. My last one was a Meat Master from Australia and it only went 5 years.

I did buy a cast sink already though. It is sitting on the ground out back waiting for a home. Had thought to tile everything, including the sink but I really like the stain idea. Provided I can find the stain!

[Filthymutt]

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Another option! when your cut brick oven is complete, you could send the saw to .........maybe Tochigi prefecture as "scrap" or Australia as "scrap", you would recover some of your costs and the buyer....hint...me..me would get one hell of a deal! Except the trucking, customs clearance fees, port entrance fee, inland freight, and local and federal sales tax ----all would make it a bust!!!!!!!!!!

Got caught importing rice crispies cereal 10 years ago! Did not have a license for importing rice! Cost $800 to unload the container for inspection; and then they gave me the choice of incinerating the cereal or returning to point of shipment. chose incineration--case of rice crispies went up in smoke for $850... $50 covered the price of the cereal through a broker..then had to pay for 3 trucks to bring my building materials to jobsite rather than a loaded container---another $1200.............

Pretty expensive cereal...
All I wanted was "peanut butter-rice crispy bars"...taste of mid america!
instead a $2050 bill for burnt crispies...

On top of all that, the next several containers had to be opened for inspection --rather than a customery approval......more costs that lasted through the entire year!

Great to learn about import housing!

Wow! I guess China is not the only crazy place! Ouch! Luckily there are some importers here in Beijing that try hard to bring in what Expats want. And yes I have seen Rice Crispies here! Even those premade Rice Crispy treats!

Down south I had my own import license but never brought much in with it. Some Australian Red wine and an expensive electric oven and a few other things. But that was in Macao. I'd need a whole new one for the mainland.

Sorry about your costs. But its nearly over now yes?

As for shipping out the saw, hmm something to think on...

[mikku]

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it is "structural slab for new WFO" --my camera is needing repairs and Canon told me--too old! Just like the owner! But the camera is only 9 years old..but for electronics...that is ice age! got to break the piggie bank, already cracked from the oven and see if there is enough money for an up to date did-gee camera!

I'm as old as dirt but Laurentius is a year older! making me "japanese word for subbordinate --"mikku cun", the youngster!!!!!!!!!

makes me feel like a spring chiken or chicken!:

[mikku]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

yes, counter tops.
They are called "ginko di-e-seki", I don't know the proper Japanese terms but the term means "imitation stone". There are a lot of manufacturers of imitation stone counters in china. Some are very nice and the price is cheap. You might check it out ...they also have precast sinks and all the accessories like faucets, tailpieces, strainer baskets and the works for doing a great looking counter.

the counters come polished and ready to install. I did an installation in Yokosuka, Kanagawa prefecture where the customer purchased all his stuff from China and imported it. Everything came out fantastic. his tops were top of the line and his accessories all worked out great. he is one happy camper!

[Filthymutt]

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Hello there dirty dog!
The castable refractory for my dome cost 1/2 of the price of the saw you are contemplating. I spent a whole lot of time making a form--but that is what I do, and it was a real challenge working with the angles. But once completed, the casting took about an hour, forms stripped the following day. So far, XXXXXXXXXXmy fingers, no cracks in the castable even though it was 1000F on sunday!

You've been married? 15 years??? divorce lawyers fees--really don't think so!
I've been married 42 years???? sometimes, I think divorce lawers fees would be cheap!

Who said dat???

Hope you can get out the rut of finding things and get back to building! Looking for photos! always like to see photos!

Ha ha. Well, been in China for 15. Married 17 or so. 42? Wow. Even if you ad my first wife into the mix my total married years split between the two of them is 23, yeesh!

I was thinking about your casting project. Just the thought of it seems more than my little brain can handle. Bricks are easier for me to understand, stack one on top of the other and squeeze'm together a bit, ha ha. I should only hope its going to work that way.

Talking about pics I want to see some of that beauty you are keeping your fingers crossed over. Good luck with it!

See My Beijing Build album at:

http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/memb...ing-build.html

Bob

[mikku]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

Another option! when your cut brick oven is complete, you could send the saw to .........maybe Tochigi prefecture as "scrap" or Australia as "scrap", you would recover some of your costs and the buyer....hint...me..me would get one hell of a deal! Except the trucking, customs clearance fees, port entrance fee, inland freight, and local and federal sales tax ----all would make it a bust!!!!!!!!!!

Got caught importing rice crispies cereal 10 years ago! Did not have a license for importing rice! Cost $800 to unload the container for inspection; and then they gave me the choice of incinerating the cereal or returning to point of shipment. chose incineration--case of rice crispies went up in smoke for $850... $50 covered the price of the cereal through a broker..then had to pay for 3 trucks to bring my building materials to jobsite rather than a loaded container---another $1200.............

Pretty expensive cereal...
All I wanted was "peanut butter-rice crispy bars"...taste of mid america!
instead a $2050 bill for burnt crispies...

On top of all that, the next several containers had to be opened for inspection --rather than a customery approval......more costs that lasted through the entire year!

Great to learn about import housing!

[Filthymutt]

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Well, just lost one of my replies again!

Better buy it quickly! If it has Brickies stamp of approval, you will be good to go! Better get some good advice on blades--a good one is going to cost some coin---but a cheap one won't last.. Good ones pay for themselves!

Got any current pix?

On a different topic, aren't there a lot of manufacturers for precast tops there?
A couple years back, we were importing tops from China--forgot the place though!

Sorry I forgot to answer that last bit about the tops. You mean counter tops?

[mikku]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

Hello there dirty dog!
The castable refractory for my dome cost 1/2 of the price of the saw you are contemplating. I spent a whole lot of time making a form--but that is what I do, and it was a real challenge working with the angles. But once completed, the casting took about an hour, forms stripped the following day. So far, XXXXXXXXXXmy fingers, no cracks in the castable even though it was 1000F on sunday!

You've been married? 15 years??? divorce lawyers fees--really don't think so!
I've been married 42 years???? sometimes, I think divorce lawers fees would be cheap!

Who said dat???

Hope you can get out the rut of finding things and get back to building! Looking for photos! always like to see photos!

[Filthymutt]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

Nothing in the last few days. Couldn't use any power tools over the weekend so I didn't get much done. And yesterday I found out where the "Power tools market" in Beijing is/are. There are actually 3 of them. and of course they are as far south of the center of town as I am to the north so it was and hour and fifteen to get to the first one today and another 20 minutes in between. I ended up using half my day exploring them but no luck in finding that tile saw in the flesh as I was hoping. So if I get it it has to be on line.

I'm posting pics to http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/memb...ing-build.html but so far nothing exciting to look at. The yard is a disaster area but I will take more shots tomorrow and post soon.

Bob

[mikku]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

Well, just lost one of my replies again!

Better buy it quickly! If it has Brickies stamp of approval, you will be good to go! Better get some good advice on blades--a good one is going to cost some coin---but a cheap one won't last.. Good ones pay for themselves!

Got any current pix?

On a different topic, aren't there a lot of manufacturers for precast tops there?
A couple years back, we were importing tops from China--forgot the place though!

[Filthymutt]

Re: Tile saw Needed or not?

They actually have 3 different models: That was the model A you can see the specs below. A has a 35cm blade (about 14") She told me today another 250.00 rmb for shipping and 400 for a diamond blade. I am not sure how much extra for the lawyers fees when my wife divorces me over the cost of this oven/kitchen ;-)

But total saw cost 3,600 + 400 + 250 = 4,250 RMB or 702.00 Ozzie

I'm not sure yet if I am going to do it or not. I mean once this project is finished I am not sure if I'll ever use it again. But hmm if I can shut down the water and change blades to make a regular Radial Arm saw out of it maybe...

Model Blade Size mm Motor Power kw V/HZ Turnning Speed of blade Max Cutting Length mm Max Cutting Depth mm Packing mm N.W/G.W kgs MOQ SET Delivery Days Payment Price USD EXW Price RMB EXW
OSC-A 350 2.8 220/380 2800 600 110 1360x690x570 88/105 1 7 T/T $570.00 ?3,600.00
OSC-A600 600 4 380 1440 590 210 1450*750*950 123*138 1 20 T/T $910.00 ?5,800.00
OSC-B 350 2.8 220/380 2800 500 110 1030x630x650 75/95 1 7 T/T $530.00 ?3,400.00