castable refractory

[chucky]

Re: castable refractory

Hi steve just read your post,
I done alot of research into building the pompei oven
Darley products used to work out of Darley( Bacchus Marsh) they closed the factory two years ago and now import all their items from china. I then found a place in Sunshine west who where much cheaper than Darley their website is Fire Bricks, Refractory, Alumina Bricks, High Temperature Materials they import from a well known company in china.
Hope this helps.

i was going to build mine but a friend knew a friend who builds castable ovens and got mine cheaper than i could make it. still got to put finish render on.

[wemme]

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Like everything here lately the cost has gone throught the roof.
for one you can't get 125 anymore i think the new replacement 130.

yes if you read the thread in full i was quoted about a year ago NZD$35+gst per bag if i bought 40 bags dirrect from the factory in invercargill. since then the last price i had was about $50-55 +gst and i had to buy 60 bags. i can get them from mastertrade here in town... whats left of it... for about $60-65 per bag.. - any trade discounts.

[Kiwi Pyro]

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Hi Wemme, can I ask where you found Shiracast 125 for $25.00 per bag please?
That is a very sharp price.

[Johnny the oven man]

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about $25 AUD per 25kg bag.

Thats a reasonable price.

[wemme]

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about $25 AUD per 25kg bag.

[Johnny the oven man]

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Sould be fine, what sort of money in Un Zud?

[wemme]

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Thanks guys, I hope to use Castable for the Themal, mass is 50mm (2") for walls and floor
enough???

I only want to do a few pizzas a loaf of bread or two or a roast or so.
I've attached a spec sheet on the castable i'm thinking of using, Any one have any comments about its suitability?

Regards
Bart

[jbriggs]

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Like Johnny said, it depends on the density of the castable that you choose. Lets say you need 5 ft^3 of refractory and your castable is 140lb/ft^3, then the net weight is 5*140= 700#, which would mean that you would need 700lbs/55lbs per bag = 13 bags (assuming that the product comes in a 55# bag). There is very little shrinkage so that is really not an issue when calculating volume.

There are several post on here that talk about calculating the volume of your oven, just do a search and I'm sure you will come up with something.

Good luck!

[Johnny the oven man]

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Hello Over here in NZ fire bricks cost about $6.5 each and a 25kg bag of castable is $30.
Does any one know approximately the Volume yield of castable per bag?
Regards
Bart

Depends on density, lower temp. dense castables are 2000kg/m3 or 80x 25kg bags. This equates also to 2 bags/ft3 [ 2bags per cubic foot ]

[wemme]

Re: castable refractory

Hello Over here in NZ fire bricks cost about $6.5 each and a 25kg bag of castable is $30.
Does any one know approximately the Volume yield of castable per bag?
Regards
Bart

[mr g]

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Hi Joey, I stumbled across your one just the other day. In fact I sent a friend of mine who wants to make one as well pictures of your design rather than mine. I had to knock him back since we have too many domes to make as it is. You idea is a very clever and simple design. Because you have no slope on the sides is it much simpler to make the form. How heavy do you think your dome is or how many bags went into your dome? Our quarter sections
each weigh approx. 85kgs or 187 lbs. Each dome and entrance requires 14 x 25kg (55 lbs) bags. So thats about 350 kg (770 lbs). Does anybody know how long an oven of this mass might take to come up to temp?

We've got another casting session on Wednesday night. We're hoping to make two per week. It tooks us just over three hours to make the last one but with some "streamlining" we're hoping to get that down to two hours (hopefully).

[JoeyVelderrain]

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Forgot to add the pics..... sorry. Here they are. One of the photos show the quarter dome form that I first used under the table.

Mr G.

sure looks familiar, I wish i would have went the sectional route but i voted against it at the time, i thought it would be too labor intensive...goes to show you why i don't vote...



http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f43/...uild-7866.html

[TheOldFox]

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i'm loving this....sectional design, has to be easier to move the end result..

nice job Mr G and crew....

the more i read on these forums the more i know i have to have a go... loool...

waiting on a delivery of sand/gravel, so i can finish some steps and wall foundations..

[ThisOldGarageNJ]

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very cool......

[mr g]

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Sounds like a plan...

Good luck and keep us posted with pictures of the pours

Mark

Sorry, got a bit carried away and forgot to take pictures during the process. I have taken some of the end though. Given that I'll be making so many more I'll try to remember to take some during the pouring part next time.