Finding local building materials

[Reno]

Re: Finding local building materials

hey all, I live in maryland and was hoping to build an oven according to the pompeii plans. I wanted to get the kit but the cost of shipping is greater than that of the kit... what type of firebrick should i be looking for and where is a good source (for all of the materials) If there is an east coast supplier or reccomended source

At any block company u will find every thing

[Greg M]

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This is my first time using a forum for anything so I hope I am doing this correctly. If not any guidence would be apprecieated.

I have an oven that is a custom made masonry type that is wood fired and is exterior in an outdoor kitchen. For reasons that would take too long to explain I need to convert it to gas. I already have propane for two large gas grills next to it and want to install a gas burner in the oven. The interior is approximately 4? x 5? and about 20? high. I would need to get the oven up to between 500 and 700 degrees for my needs. I guess I am looking for a burner with fittings to retro fit it. I hope this is enough information, if not please let me know.

[dmun]

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We do not consider gas burners safe in domestic ovens, and discourage their use, and the discussion of how to build them.

[Tscarborough]

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Not only are they not safe, they are not efficient unless integrated into the design of the oven.

[edsalldw]

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I have checked with local masons and potters. It seems ther is only one source of firebrick in the Us A company in Ohio and they make only 26% alumina brick. and only in a few sizes aroun 8-9.5" by 2-4" by 4 - 4.5".

I wish FB woudl sell their bricks esp the 12x12. or sell a kit that is in the 27" range. 36" is just too big for our needs - more wood wasted heat and polution. longer heat time. 2 or 3 batches 3 loaves of bread is plenty for a small family.

Does anyone have experience with soapstone for an oven floor? no seams and looks nice. heat transfer is 4x brick.

[Hank10746]

Re: Finding local building materials

I have checked with local masons and potters. It seems ther is only one source of firebrick in the Us A company in Ohio and they make only 26% alumina brick. and only in a few sizes aroun 8-9.5" by 2-4" by 4 - 4.5".

I wish FB woudl sell their bricks esp the 12x12. or sell a kit that is in the 27" range. 36" is just too big for our needs - more wood wasted heat and polution. longer heat time. 2 or 3 batches 3 loaves of bread is plenty for a small family.

Does anyone have experience with soapstone for an oven floor? no seams and looks nice. heat transfer is 4x brick.

Hi
I thought the same thing after 3 weeks of looking around Hemet Ca. and not even finding a brick but after looking on the Internet for Refractory brick or Castable Refractory cement and a couple leads from the people on this forum I found 10 or 15 places around the country. I have found that almost every Metropolitan area has a Refractory products reseller or manufacture. You just have to use some common industry terms and you will find them. Also look for a clay brick manufacture and they should know where they are made if they don't make them. That's where I am getting mine. I found several around the East coast. Hope it helps.

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Just 3 but they are all over the place. Shipping is to high so you do want to find one you can pick up from.
Hank

[Bort jr]

Re: Finding local building materials

I have, recently, sourced all the necessary materials in the great portland or area. If you need help, please email me at through the forum. It has all been great fun.
-Brad

[dconnolly]

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does it make a difference if I use low duty or medium duty fire brick.... Both are about $1.50 a piece

The medium duty bricks will take more heat....I would opt for them. I am using these in a wood buring fire pit to accompany my oven.

[johnnybrewmeister]

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source for fire clay in San Diego?
recommended type of clay?
Thanks!

[Dabouv1]

Re: Finding local building materials..Portland or

I have, recently, sourced all the necessary materials in the great portland or area. If you need help, please email me at through the forum. It has all been great fun.
-Brad

I am starting on my dome. I found harbison walker has Carter brand bricks that are medium duty and almost identical to FB's in composition. only a few outlets stock them but was able to do transfer from wa. Warehouse to Portland cheaply. I paid 1.76/brick. I think it will go up a little. Casey was very helpful at harbison walker. Western Ceramics (Chuck) also was helpful. They have 2nds of Calcium silicate board (they may be 1/4 inch off on width or length for instance) that were a fraction of the cost and saved me a bundle. They also are selling ceramic blanket, insulfrax, at 1.10 sq. foot which was also much less than elsewhere.

[Husker25]

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Hi guys-has anyone come across a good supplier for fire bricks close to Salida, CO? I found a place down in Denver selling them for $2.75/ea.

[texman]

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you might try Larkin refractory. larkinrefractory.com
1.80/brick but lots of shipping cost.

[Husker25]

Re: Finding local building materials

you might try Larkin refractory. larkinrefractory.com
1.80/brick but lots of shipping cost.

Thanks Texman. I actually find a supplier down in Denver for $1.84/brick. Threewit-Cooper Cement Co. They also had Heat Stop 50 for $80/bag.

[Dagored154]

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Why can't I use the pre-mixed high heat refractory mortar? I just read that statement in the Forno Bravo plan book and don't understand why not.

[Dagored154]

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I found a supplier of silica sand for my mortar. should I use fine silica sand or coarse silica sand?