36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

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  • stonecutter
    Il Pizzaiolo
    • Jun 2007
    • 2003

    #361
    Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

    The numbers on my diagram are based on a guessimated height of your spring line. You really should measure to get the height...I'm not sure that the span and rise on my drawing will work with what you actually have.
    Old World Stone & Garden

    Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

    When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
    John Ruskin

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    • Bec1208
      Journeyman
      • Nov 2012
      • 416

      #362
      Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

      Originally posted by stonecutter
      The numbers on my diagram are based on a guessimated height of your spring line. You really should measure to get the height...I'm not sure that the span and rise on my drawing will work with what you actually have.
      I planned to resize, wanting to leave a wider reveal. Was confused for a second, first thought reference to spring line was to outer arch (floor level) then realized you were referring to spring line of inner arch. Thanks again, Bruce
      Link to my build here:
      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

      Check out my pictures here:

      Selected pictures of the build.

      https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





      sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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      • stonecutter
        Il Pizzaiolo
        • Jun 2007
        • 2003

        #363
        Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

        Originally posted by Bec1208
        I planned to resize, wanting to leave a wider reveal. Was confused for a second, first thought reference to spring line was to outer arch (floor level) then realized you were referring to spring line of inner arch. Thanks again, Bruce
        They are one in the same.

        Remember, if you enlarge the reveal, you create a higher rise...which will widen your span.
        Old World Stone & Garden

        Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

        When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
        John Ruskin

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        • kanoer54
          Apprentice
          • Apr 2013
          • 137

          #364
          Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

          bruce, i have been following your build with great interest. i am just starting my build in southern illinois and read your posts almost daily. you have raised lots of good questions i would never have thought of asking. i have learned a lot from you and all the others on this forum.

          it won't be long and you'll be cooking five-star restaurant meals in your oven non-stop. it will make the food on your trip out west (which i also followed with great jealousy) seem like run of the mill diner food.
          best of luck on your flue and entry.
          jon
          jon

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          • Bec1208
            Journeyman
            • Nov 2012
            • 416

            #365
            Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

            Originally posted by stonecutter
            The numbers on my diagram are based on a guessimated height of your spring line. You really should measure to get the height...I'm not sure that the span and rise on my drawing will work with what you actually have.
            Good guesstimate, inner spring line is about 8 1/4". I cut 3 forms but haven't assembled them yet. They have a 14" rise and a 25 inch span. I did a mockup and the pic below is how it ended up. Does it look usable?
            Last edited by Bec1208; 07-11-2013, 02:41 PM. Reason: Added photos
            Link to my build here:
            http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

            Check out my pictures here:

            Selected pictures of the build.

            https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





            sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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            • Bec1208
              Journeyman
              • Nov 2012
              • 416

              #366
              Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

              Originally posted by kanoer54
              bruce, i have been following your build with great interest. i am just starting my build in southern illinois and read your posts almost daily. you have raised lots of good questions i would never have thought of asking. i have learned a lot from you and all the others on this forum.

              it won't be long and you'll be cooking five-star restaurant meals in your oven non-stop. it will make the food on your trip out west (which i also followed with great jealousy) seem like run of the mill diner food.
              best of luck on your flue and entry.
              jon
              Thanks for the comments. I read through your current thread, very interesting approach. Look forward to watching as you go along. Pay attention to stonecutter's instructions for designing an arch. Haven't mastered it but I wish I had learned these lessons before the working on the inner arch. Let me know if I can help. Good luck with the build. Bruce
              Link to my build here:
              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

              Check out my pictures here:

              Selected pictures of the build.

              https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





              sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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              • UtahBeehiver
                Member Moderator
                • May 2012
                • 5260

                #367
                Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                Bruce,

                No moss grows under you. When you decide to go it is 110%. On the home stretch. Great thread to watch.
                Russell
                https://photos.google.com/album/AF1Q...L9lr_UnUgJbF3Z

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                • Bec1208
                  Journeyman
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 416

                  #368
                  Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                  Just to give everyone a laugh, here are Mark 1 and Mark 2 versions of what may or may not resemble a "trammel".
                  Link to my build here:
                  http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                  Check out my pictures here:

                  Selected pictures of the build.

                  https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                  sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                  • Bec1208
                    Journeyman
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 416

                    #369
                    Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                    Originally posted by UtahBeehiver
                    Bruce,

                    No moss grows under you. When you decide to go it is 110%. On the home stretch. Great thread to watch.
                    Thanks Russell, I really got the urge to finish after completing the inner arch. It felt like things were downhill from there. Bruce

                    Here's looking at you.
                    Last edited by Bec1208; 07-11-2013, 03:05 PM. Reason: Added photo
                    Link to my build here:
                    http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                    Check out my pictures here:

                    Selected pictures of the build.

                    https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                    sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                    • Bec1208
                      Journeyman
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 416

                      #370
                      Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                      Originally posted by UtahBeehiver
                      Bruce,

                      No moss grows under you. When you decide to go it is 110%. On the home stretch. Great thread to watch.
                      Russell, I believe you used a duravent flue. I have an 8" adapter plate and need to work out smoke chamber and mounting the plate. Any thoughts on a simple layout (I recall yours as being fairly intricate)? Bruce
                      Link to my build here:
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                      Check out my pictures here:

                      Selected pictures of the build.

                      https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                      sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                      • stonecutter
                        Il Pizzaiolo
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 2003

                        #371
                        Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                        Originally posted by Bec1208
                        Just to give everyone a laugh, here are Mark 1 and Mark 2 versions of what may or may not resemble a "trammel".
                        Whatever works....it's the end result that matters most.
                        Old World Stone & Garden

                        Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

                        When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
                        John Ruskin

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                        • stonecutter
                          Il Pizzaiolo
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 2003

                          #372
                          Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                          Originally posted by Bec1208
                          Good guesstimate, inner spring line is about 8 1/4". I cut 3 forms but haven't assembled them yet. They have a 14" rise and a 25 inch span. I did a mockup and the pic below is how it ended up. Does it look usable?
                          Yes, that looks usable... good job.
                          Old World Stone & Garden

                          Current WFO build - Dry Stone Base & Gothic Vault

                          When we build, let us think that we build for ever.
                          John Ruskin

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                          • UtahBeehiver
                            Member Moderator
                            • May 2012
                            • 5260

                            #373
                            Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                            I used Selkirk which is like duravent and the anchor plates are similar but not interchangeable. I did anchor the plate to the vent stack then capped my with bricks but I have seen several builds lately with just mounting the plate to the right to the vent stack. You might even consider a clay flue. The duravent or selkirt are really spendy. I am not sure how high you need to go but a clay flue is cheaper and if you do not need to go too high. Mark 1 or Mark 2, if it works, why not.
                            Russell
                            https://photos.google.com/album/AF1Q...L9lr_UnUgJbF3Z

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                            • Bec1208
                              Journeyman
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 416

                              #374
                              Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                              Originally posted by UtahBeehiver
                              I used Selkirk which is like duravent and the anchor plates are similar but not interchangeable. I did anchor the plate to the vent stack then capped my with bricks but I have seen several builds lately with just mounting the plate to the right to the vent stack. You might even consider a clay flue. The duravent or selkirt are really spendy. I am not sure how high you need to go but a clay flue is cheaper and if you do not need to go too high. Mark 1 or Mark 2, if it works, why not.
                              I want to keep options open, I picked up the adapter plate used for $22 including shipping. My thoughts at the moment are to set up the vent up to the plate. At that point get the dome insulation completed and either stucco or start curing the oven. I think to do this I need to switch from whole bricks to 1" slices to span the upper arch. I can see a couple ways to get through this, suggestions appreciated or I can learn from my own false starts.
                              Link to my build here:
                              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                              Check out my pictures here:

                              Selected pictures of the build.

                              https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                              sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                              • Bec1208
                                Journeyman
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 416

                                #375
                                Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                                Originally posted by stonecutter
                                Yes, that looks usable... good job.
                                Thanks, you really helped me through this. Currently looking at options to create vent to chimney transition. Hope to be able to work it out tomorrow. Bruce
                                Link to my build here:
                                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                                Check out my pictures here:

                                Selected pictures of the build.

                                https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                                sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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