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  • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

    Thanks, it really did come together without much skill or effort. Bruce
    Link to my build here:
    http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

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    Selected pictures of the build.

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    • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

      Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
      Gudday Bruce
      Now that's starting to look very functionable !! Well done. What's the plan from here?
      Regards dave
      You mean there's supposed to be a plan?

      Let's see,
      Cut off bottom off bottom of door/arch template.
      Mortar sides of insulation
      Originally posted by UtahBeehiver View Post
      Bruce,

      When you get done trimming the Ca Sil to where you want, take your leftover mortar as you lay your bricks and render the sides of the Ca Sil board. The mortar will keep the Ca Sil from getting damaged, broken, dented while you do your dome.
      Begin mortaring sides of perimeter bricks.
      Start next course, then next course , etc...
      Work out thermal break outside inner entry.
      Transition, smoke chamber, and chimney.
      Outer arch.
      Oh, and finish oven door.
      Not necessarily in that order.

      Dave, what did I miss? Bruce
      Link to my build here:
      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

      Check out my pictures here:

      Selected pictures of the build.

      https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





      sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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      • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

        Originally posted by Bec1208 View Post
        You mean there's supposed to be a plan?

        Let's see,
        Cut off bottom off bottom of door/arch template.
        Mortar sides of insulation

        Begin mortaring sides of perimeter bricks.
        Start next course, then next course , etc...
        Work out thermal break outside inner entry.
        Transition, smoke chamber, and chimney.
        Outer arch.
        Oh, and finish oven door.
        Not necessarily in that order.

        Dave, what did I miss? Bruce
        Oh, yeah
        Lay out ceramic blanket
        Use chicken wire and round out dome.
        Spread render coat to smooth out.
        Waterproof

        And create a vent to let water vapor out of dome without letting water in.
        Link to my build here:
        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

        Check out my pictures here:

        Selected pictures of the build.

        https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





        sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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        • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

          Gudday
          Don't mortar you first layer of dome / entrance to the insulation .... Let it float so it will expand and contract without cracking anything.

          Regards dave
          Measure twice
          Cut once
          Fit in position with largest hammer

          My Build
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          • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

            No mortar at all, or just at sides?
            Link to my build here:
            http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

            Check out my pictures here:

            Selected pictures of the build.

            https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





            sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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            • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

              Gudday Bruce
              Just the sides( sorry for labouring the point)

              Regards
              Dave
              Measure twice
              Cut once
              Fit in position with largest hammer

              My Build
              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
              My Door
              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

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              • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
                Gudday Bruce
                Just the sides( sorry for labouring the point)

                Regards
                Dave
                Dave, again I don't think I can really communicate how much I appreciate your help. You may have noticed that detailed advance planning is not one of my strengths. On the other hand I probably wouldn't have started this if I had thought it through. I appreciate you keeping me focused and thinking ahead. Helps to know someone has my back.

                Thanks, Bruce
                Link to my build here:
                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                Check out my pictures here:

                Selected pictures of the build.

                https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                  Gudday Bruce
                  Sorry about the short answers I'm at work at this time of day. Sorry the shortness of the rely only mean I'm short on time!!!!! Not upset in any way.
                  You really have to laugh when you think about it , I am only on the other side of the planet from you and in the other hemisphere...... But the conversation continues
                  Regards Dave
                  Measure twice
                  Cut once
                  Fit in position with largest hammer

                  My Build
                  http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                  My Door
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                  • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                    Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
                    Gudday Bruce
                    Sorry about the short answers I'm at work at this time of day. Sorry the shortness of the rely only mean I'm short on time!!!!! Not upset in any way.
                    You really have to laugh when you think about it , I am only on the other side of the planet from you and in the other hemisphere...... But the conversation continues
                    Regards Dave
                    Wasn't thinking you were upset (just saying thanks) like mom taught me. I've commented to friends about how geography and distance seem so unimportant with the Internet. By the way, I highly recommend retirement. Bruce
                    Link to my build here:
                    http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                    Check out my pictures here:

                    Selected pictures of the build.

                    https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                    sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                    • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                      Gudday Bruce
                      Glad you don't think I'm being short with you... And I do like your thanks.
                      What's this about retirement, your teasing me,seems like I'm working longer and harder as I'm getting older.but the plan is to slow down to part time work in the next 5 yrs.
                      I'm pretty well know in the industry and people are always after part timers so I probably will not retire but slowly fade into the sunset, so to speak.
                      I also teach , trainer/assessor, filling in on classes at the moment when needed.
                      I use to teach full time but had to give it away due to my then bosses sickness.
                      A friend took over the organisation and expanded into mechanics and building Its mainly aimed at giving basic trade qualifications for 15 year olds who are that time when they threaten to leave school.
                      The kids are still at school and we have them a day a week. It's as much hands on as possible and designed really to give those kids a chance to "kick some goals" and get a bit of confidence in themselves that they don't get at school.
                      The success is not just in the entry level trade skills but in those who actually go back to school so they can get better education and qualifications.
                      It's a honour to step a bit of life's path with these kids and hopefully see them stride off by them selves
                      Anyway end of a long day
                      Regards dave
                      Measure twice
                      Cut once
                      Fit in position with largest hammer

                      My Build
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                      My Door
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

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                      • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                        You are a busy man. I retired a few years early due to the accumulated late effects of my polio. Just got to the point that fatigue and other issues kept me from being able to continue in my job.

                        Sun is out today, but rain is supposed to be back tomorrow. Spent a little time this a.m. smoothing out the entry door shell. I put in a few rivets and used my angle grinder to smooth some of the rough cut edges.

                        I'll post my progress later today and add some pics. Bruce
                        Link to my build here:
                        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                        Check out my pictures here:

                        Selected pictures of the build.

                        https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                        sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                        • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                          Good morning Bruce
                          That's the bummer about jobs....set tasks, set times... But don't worry about that oven, its different it will just wait under that little blue tarp. God will deliever you a perfect day and the energy you'll find, if not stop and listen to the birds, that's good, no boss on your back!
                          Regards dave
                          Measure twice
                          Cut once
                          Fit in position with largest hammer

                          My Build
                          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                          My Door
                          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

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                          • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                            First the good, the door came together pretty. I ground down the rough edges and added rivets where the folds came together. I spread a layer of high temp adhesive to seal the seams and laid down a layer of insulation board. I think the door is going to work out well.

                            Now the bad. I mixed up a small batch of mortar and tried to mortar the perimeter bricks. I wet the bricks briefly before applying the mortar. The mortar did not stick to the brick so I added so extra water. Probably thinned it too much. Anyways, I don't think any of the bricks stuck together. The mortar is harbison walker 413 mix. Any tips?
                            Link to my build here:
                            http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                            Check out my pictures here:

                            Selected pictures of the build.

                            https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                            sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                            • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                              Gudday Bruce
                              I have not used hi temp mortar so I hope someone chips in with some better detail.From what I have read. Hi temp mortar doesn't "cure" as such at first only drys off its water content it cures only after it heated during your ovens curing fires. So it appears the bond between the brick will be delicate? ( I hope that's the right word) till fired I suspect.
                              Regards dave
                              Measure twice
                              Cut once
                              Fit in position with largest hammer

                              My Build
                              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                              My Door
                              http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

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                              • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                                Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
                                So it appears the bond between the brick will be delicate? ( I hope that's the right word) till fired I suspect.
                                Be careful Bruce that you have the correct product.

                                You need air set not fire set mortar, if its fire set the whole dome could collapse before you get the chance to fire it, and if it gets wet before firing it will just collapse as the mortar is washed out of the joints.
                                The English language was invented by people who couldnt spell.

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