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  • #16
    Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

    If mine was elbow high, it would add about 15cm....

    ...for a ratio of .61

    Frances, you are .68
    sigpicTiempo para guzarlos..... ...enjoy every sandwich!

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    • #17
      Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

      Frances:

      I was absent the day they taught ratio. So. (remember mine is a M.A.M 505 on a steel stand that I bought from some dude in Michigan.) After digging down and setting the concrete base, my neighbor (professional bricklayer) built up the blocks until the hearth reached my elbow.
      So my part essentially was showing up for a measurement.

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      • #18
        Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

        Its the height of your hearth divided by your size - works in inches or cm and comes to 0.somethingorother, which gives us an exact number to compare.... (what with poeple's arms and elbows etc being of different lengths and in different places)

        I don't think they will have taught this when you were at school though, because "Hearth Height and Operator Ratio Science" is a relatively new field of study as yet. But I think I can predict without much fear of contradiction that it will soon become one of the supporting pillars of future oven building research...
        "Building a Brick oven is the most fun anyone can have by themselves." (Terry Pratchett... slightly amended)

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        • #19
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          maybe I should have got an arts degree instead of a science degree eh?
          sigpicTiempo para guzarlos..... ...enjoy every sandwich!

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          • #20
            Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

            Funny Frances! I like your sense of humor.
            G.
            GJBingham
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            • #21
              Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

              Why thank you, George! Yours is in pretty good condition, too

              Does you good to laugh, eh?
              "Building a Brick oven is the most fun anyone can have by themselves." (Terry Pratchett... slightly amended)

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              • #22
                Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                My floor is at 39.5" so my ratio is .56, haven't started cooking yet so I can't tell you what it is like. Soon
                RCLake

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                • #23
                  Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                  RC, I am close.
                  36" with blocks
                  3" insulation board
                  2.5" bricks

                  Formula 41.5/ 72= .58

                  Sounds good for me. But my wife is 41.5/ 66= .63
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                  • #24
                    Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                    my ovens 38inches and I'm 69inches tall = .55 ratio
                    I'm pretty comfortable with it - can see the oven rear with out bending down and arms are at a comfortable level

                    Ideally you could try someone elses before you build yours. For me (at the time)I had some scrap strip steel floating about and used this to work it out. I gave it to Pete to work out his......opps I forgot to file some of the sharp edges though
                    Cheers
                    Damon

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                    • #25
                      Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                      Bacterium,

                      This is an interesting thread. I ask my customers to hold out a broomstick at a comfortable level, then work from there. Most hearth heights turn out to be around 44" for people of average height, although I did an install for a man who is 6'6", so the working height was close to 48". My own oven is around 42" at the hearth, and I sometimes wish it was a bit higher. It's interesting to note that the floor height on the Modena commercial ovens is just over
                      47". No adjustment without changing the stand.

                      Jim
                      "Made are tools, and born are hands"--William Blake, 1757-1827

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                      • #26
                        Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                        44"/71" for me...works out to .62 which is right at my elbow.....I think that was my original goal, having read it somewhere on FB over a year ago.

                        RT

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                        • #27
                          Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                          Is someone going to develop a questionnaire about Hearth Height/Operator Ratio ratio (HH/OR) and satisfaction with that height? Perhaps we can come up with an ideal HH/OR to shoot for when building.
                          (That's not whore, though it sounds the same )
                          G>
                          GJBingham
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                          • #28
                            Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                            CJ's tall customer had a .61 ratio. And if I was using that Modena commercial it would be at .65, higher for shorter help!

                            It looks like we're running into an average ratio in the low .5's to the mid .6's so far.

                            What we need to hear from are unhappy customers....Is anyone willing to admit that their hearth height is too low or too high? What about ratio's below .5 or above .65?

                            Or are WFO users just so happy having a oven like me that they're glowing on cloud 9.
                            sigpicTiempo para guzarlos..... ...enjoy every sandwich!

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                            • #29
                              Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                              broomstick....mmmmm yeah there has to be a simple way to it.....although a bit of science to verify
                              Cheers
                              Damon

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                              • #30
                                Re: Hearth Height and operator ratio science!

                                Right now I'm at 36 for the hearth

                                3.5" for instulation hearth
                                2" Iso
                                2.5" Brick

                                So that should get my oven height to ~44" I"m 5'10" so my ratio would be .62. At first I thought 40+ would be too tall for the opening but I think I'll like the higher height.

                                Dick

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