Ice for positioning: Bags, Blocks how much can you move it?

[pizza4life]

There's a lot of ice mentions on the forum, I want to know:
Is it possible to rotate a Napolino on a granite top once it was placed on ice bags or blocks.
How far can it slide on ice bags or blocks?

Any tips here?

Tomorrow is the big day.
-s

[david s]

I’ve used ice once under an oven to make the removal of the lifting straps easier. It did work well, but a lot probably depends on how heavy the oven is, so you should seek advice from Forno Bravo.

I’d be more concerned about the granite slab the oven is planned to sit on. Granite is notorious for cracking if heat is applied unevenly to it. I have seen two granite slabs under ovens crack from side to side directly under the centre of the oven, which indicates to me that it was probably the heat of the oven which was the culprit.. Extra insulation under the oven maybe the solution, so again, get advice from Forno Bravo on this issue.

[pizza4life]

Here's what I know after a delivery. We froze 4 blocks of ice in Tupperware. The funny part was putting them on the granite, they immediately began drifting around near frictionless. I held them in place using long thin lumber strips. Our skid steer operator was skilled and gentle. He placed the Napolino 70 (1100 lbs) on the ice and slowly backed off the forks. The oven moved with less than a pound of force. it was trivial to glide it to the proper orientation. We then clamped some wood blocks to hold it for a couple hours while the ice melted. It was very gentle and ended with the oven placed exactly where I wanted. I had cleared granite with forno, and the weight with grillnetics. They make the cabinet for me to support that weight. I assembled it and stuccoed it, sourced the granite etc. My experience with the eathen over I built before this was that with insulation, like kiln board on the bottom, it never really got more than warm.

In the pics, you can't see the side blocks.

I've also attached a pic of the earthen oven base. That wood table never got more than warm on the bottom.

[pizza4life]

Oh, and I hit that side block of ice with a hair dryer to prevent it from pushing on the tile by sloping the edge.