Wood Fired Beehive in Utah

[UtahBeehiver]

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April showers bring May flowers hold true here. Raining cats and dogs this morning, but the sun came out this afternoon. While it was raining I made my perlcrete template/gage for my dome. Have not decided whether to have a fixed pivot point like Gulf's build or free floating just to make sure everything stays fairly consistent and round. My old eyes have a way of fooling me.

Have not wack-a-mole my foil (to put vent holes in CF) on the dome yet but is is coming.

[stonecutter]

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or thin gauge galvanized sheet stock would work too, might be cheaper than aluminum..you get the idea. Whatever you get, maybe look for something that will behave like your cooper....that's why I'm thinking thin gauge if you go with Galv metal..aluminum coil will be very close.

[stonecutter]

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Thanks, I wish I could get more time on the project so I can start using it. I think if I was doing a copper finish like yours I would get some aluminum coil and practice with that until I worked out all the nuances of cutting,bending and fitting...I'm sure you will have to tweek several pieces as you go...just a thought.

[UtahBeehiver]

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Stonecutter,

I really admire your masonary stone skill, that dry stack base of yours is a prime example of high quality skill. I hope I don't muck up the copper shingles too much at $4.00 a lb and I am using 16 oz copper so each shingle is cost $4.

[texman]

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Russell

I would take the safe and sage advice and lose the foil. Your oven is such a gem, why risk a problem? That foil should come off easy and you can sleep without worry.

Tracy

[stonecutter]

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I anxiously await the copper shingles you are doing...to see your fabrication/installation methods. I went to trade school for HVAC, but primarily we were tin knockers. We did some pretty fun side projects, including pontoons for a river boat race.
I enjoyed it, but never got into it once I got out of school...went right into heavy construction/equipment operating, then on to masonry.

[UtahBeehiver]

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I used baling wire to hold the CF down. I drilled in Tapcons at strategic points to fasten the wire to. I would run the wire long so I could undo and adjust each blanket position as I move around. Take note on what the forum guys are talking about on the foil and moisture. You have the 3M version of this product. very easy to take the utility knife out to remove the foil covering. It is just a @#$ to work with with open fibers, use the appropriate safety gear.

[david s]

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The foil will trap moisture under it and make it really difficult to remove. As you have already put it on I suggest you get a piece of wood and hammer in a few nails in the end of it so they protrude a little, then slap the thing silly so there are lots and lots of holes that moisture can find its way through.

[cnegrelli]

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probably a complete newbie question, but what holds on the CF? How is it attached to your dome (appears to be wire, all the way around the front. Is that temporary, until you put the next coat over the CF?

[Gulf]

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I'll have to see what happens. I removed the foil on the first layer were the heat will be the greatest.

I did not use foil on my oven. I was shied away from that early in my planning. I have read on this forum where it would entrap moisture and or degrade in time due to a reaction with the masonry.
A vent at the apex (even if it is only used for the curing process) would help during the curing process and/or if it degrades over time.

Just sayin'

[david s]

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some builders use foil. i tried it once, wish I hadn't and will never use it again. do a search on the forum on foil.

[V-wiz]

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I like the foil part, so you insulation wont suck up the water from the vcrete, but ive heard foil is a bad idea?

[UtahBeehiver]

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Able to 95% of the second layer of CF installed. With a little patience and creative cutting, I was able to install with foil covering intact. Next is prepping for V-crete installations.

[stonecutter]

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You must be chomping to get that stucco on there. Looking forward to seeing those shingles too. I am hoping to get some time on my build this weekend..it's not looking good.

[UtahBeehiver]

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I was able to work on the oven today....finally mother nature took pity on me. Took off all the blue tarps and did an inspection. Other than the polished concrete counter freezing damage everything is where I left off.

I added my first layer of ceramic fiber on the dome. I had found a surplus roll of 4'x25'x 1.5" Firewrap XL which is Superwool with a ripstop foil cover in one of my junking expeditions. Started to lay with foil on but ended up cutting it off. But the second layer I think I will approach it differently and install with foil and maybe a cleaner and less itching process. After is 3-4" of 5:1 V-crete, 1/2" of stucco then the copper shingles like Larry of Chicago did. Using 5:1 and V-crete and stucco as support base since I am fastening copper shingles with SS screws.