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  • 2025 Pompeii Oven Build Log

    Going to document my build here, and perhaps get some advice while I'm at it.

    My project is an outdoor kitchen with a pizza oven and a fireplace BBQ. For now I'm going to focus on completing the pizza oven.

    Specs
    • 900mm ID
    • Dome: Tapered Firebrick 115*230*75/63 (cut in half)
    • Dome insulation: 3 layers of 25mm blanket
    • Floor: Firebrick 115*230*75
    • Floor insulation: 3 layers of 25mm CaSi board
    Design Notes
    Feedback appreciated on these - these are my ideas and aren't a part of any guide

    Low(ish) dome
    To "cheat" and lower the dome while still using my IT, I'm just going to build the floor into the dome rather than under it. That makes the inner height 450-75=375mm
    In the spirit of a small oven, this is intended to reduce the volume enough to make it heat a bit more efficiently

    Heat Break using insulating brick
    I want to put solid insulating material for the heat break. That way the break and vent arch can be the flue (see pic 3). My idea is 25mm insulating brick.
    Other ways I've considered are fill the gap with blanket and seal it with vermicrete; or inject high-temp silicone

    Other Questions
    • What should I make the chimney from? Pic 2 shows a 25mm firebrick construction. I can also make it from castable.
    • Does the outer arch have to be made with firebrick?
    • What should the vent hole dimensions be?
    • Anywhere in Australia I can buy an 8" chimney anchor plate?
    • Anywhere in Australia I can buy a metal pizza oven door? If I can buy one I'll plan my vent opening around it. Otherwise, can I make one out of wood?
    Plans​
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    Last edited by yoboseyo; 05-08-2025, 06:45 AM.

  • #2
    I lived in Suwon for a year, so 'hello', yoboseyo!

    Outer arch and thermal break: I start my fires in the landing tunnel, directly under the vent opening. As the fire progresses I push the fire back into the dome. During the initial fire, my vent tunnel gets direct flame and sees somewhat high temperatures, so my entire tunnel, including the outer arch, is made from firebrick. I used 1/2" ceramic fiber rope to fill the gap between the dome brick and the landing tunnel brick. Years ago I used a temp gun to shoot temperatures and slight thermal and structural break, plus the change in brick pattern on the floor (herringbone in the oven, running bond in the tunnel) indicated that the system worked. I have good quite good heat retention in the oven. Insulation, I have 4" of board under the floor and 4" of blanket over the dome.

    Chinmney transition: I used 12 regular sized firebricks to make the transition from the curved top of the vent arch to the chimney anchor plate. My chimney is a two-walled stainless steel flue pipe, open to free air and not surrounded by brick. It draws well year-round and with the lighter weight the arch did not require buttressing.

    For a 900mm or ~30" diameter oven, I'd think a 6" inside diameter chimney pipe and anchor plate would size up better than an 8" pipe. Others will correct if I'm mistaken. I simply flared the underside of the bricks at the vent, my chimney draws quite nicely. After years of fires I have no soot stains on the face of my oven.

    Can't help with local sourcing. Good luck with the build, and welcome to the forum!
    Mongo

    My Build: https://community.fornobravo.com/for...-s-42-ct-build

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    • #3
      Progress update:
      i have completed the base and cutting bricks for the inner arch
      I will look to cut the hearth bricks next
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      • #4
        Need to consider weep holes in the hearth before the start the floor part of the project. I would drill from the bottom since the concrete will most likely blow out, then silicon some window mesh over the holes to keep the bugs from building nest. Weep holes allow moisture to egress out from the hearth area, wet insulation is one of the main reason for poor oven performance. Many builders are also place scrap or cheap ceramic tiles on the hearth in conjunction with the weep holes, this raises the CaSi board of the hearth leaving channels for water to migrate to the weep holes. Now is the time to do these suggestions.
        Russell
        Google Photo Album [https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...JneXVXc3hVNHd3/]

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        • #5
          Originally posted by UtahBeehiver View Post
          Need to consider weep holes in the hearth before the start the floor part of the project. I would drill from the bottom since the concrete will most likely blow out, then silicon some window mesh over the holes to keep the bugs from building nest. Weep holes allow moisture to egress out from the hearth area, wet insulation is one of the main reason for poor oven performance. Many builders are also place scrap or cheap ceramic tiles on the hearth in conjunction with the weep holes, this raises the CaSi board of the hearth leaving channels for water to migrate to the weep holes. Now is the time to do these suggestions.
          Thanks, I hadn't considered that. Just to understand properly, how exactly would water get in once the whole thing is rendered over?

          How big should the weep holes be? If I make them 1/2", will that blow out?

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          • #6
            I can't tell if you are planning a roof, but if water is allowed to hit your stand, it is likely some will eventually get under the floor and potentially soak your insulation.. Raising the insulation up with tiles and/or drilling weep holes will help mitigate the effects of moisture ingression if it does happen. I did not do either, and although I put up a roof I still managed to soak my insulation boards during the build. It took me several fires to drive the water out and it had to come out through micro-gaps where the render met the hearth. Weep holes would have made the drying much easier.
            My build thread
            https://community.fornobravo.com/for...h-corner-build

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            • #7
              Plus one on JR's comments. 1/2" will still blow out so drill from the bottom of the hearth upward. CaSi can readily absorb water and as mention before, wet insulation is one of the major reason for poor oven performance.
              Russell
              Google Photo Album [https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...JneXVXc3hVNHd3/]

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              • #8
                You probably won’t know where the steel reinforcing is, so use a small pilot hole, say 1/4”. Which will allow a new hole location if you strike steel as well as reduce the blowing out. It can actually be an advantage because the divot left will create better drainage to each hole. Once pilot holes are drilled you can increase their size to 1/2”.
                Kindled with zeal and fired with passion.

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                • #9
                  yonosey, if you would like to see an example of weep holes through the hearth and tile to raise the insulation to give the water a path to escape, page two of my build thread shows how I did it. Link -> https://community.fornobravo.com/for...e-island/page2

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