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  • mcreevey
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    On the topic of ceramic fibre blankets ... I'm about to insulate my dome that has unfortunatley cracked during curing. I've patched the cracks from the outside, but i'm concerned that if further cracks develop, exposing the ceramic fibre blanket to the cooking chamber could it be a safety issue when cooking?

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  • david s
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    Originally posted by Johnny the oven man View Post
    Yes, agree on both parts, but as it has been mentioned, NO human cases of cancer have been detected, only rats that have ingested the product have had issues.
    I have been in the refractory industry for 30 years, and have never heard of anyone having any dramas.
    Yes, it could be safe, but as cancers often take a long time to develop after exposure to carcinogens we might be in a waiting game. My Dad was a medical officer during one of the Maralinga nuclear tests. He died of cancer, probably as a result of exposure, 24 years after. You should have been given the MSDS on the stuff, here it is if you want to check it out.
    Also, it is not the ingestion that is the problem it is inhalation. It's when it gets into your lungs not your stomach that is the worry.I work in a school and we are not allowed to let children have any contact with it.

    FIBERFRAX? CERAMIC FIBER PRODUCTS
    Last edited by david s; 02-10-2012, 02:11 AM. Reason: Clarification of ingestion

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  • Johnny the oven man
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    Yes, agree on both parts, but as it has been mentioned, NO human cases of cancer have been detected, only rats that have ingested the product have had issues.
    I have been in the refractory industry for 30 years, and have never heard of anyone having any dramas.

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  • david s
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    Originally posted by Johnny the oven man View Post
    Ceramic fibre blanket is only dangerous when it has been fired and the binders have burnt out from the product. This only happens in the higher ranges of temperatures, which will never happen in a WFO. Yes, wear protection, but the sky is not going to fall down.
    Can't agree, it is the fibres that are the problem and although they are held within the binder, on bending and handling, loose fibres will still become airborne, particularly when cutting the blanket.

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  • brickie in oz
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    So when the air is full of sparkling tiny fibres theres no problem?

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  • Johnny the oven man
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    Ceramic fibre blanket is only dangerous when it has been fired and the binders have burnt out from the product. This only happens in the higher ranges of temperatures, which will never happen in a WFO. Yes, wear protection, but the sky is not going to fall down.

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  • david s
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    Originally posted by building angel View Post
    When you say that this ceramic fibre (blanket) is dangerous.. can you explain how ?
    Ceramic fibre blanket is a class 2 carcinogen. Tests on rats have produced tumors, but so far there have been no recorded cases linking the product to cancer in humans, but as cancers can take many years to show up there is still a cloud over its use. The stuff is banned in Germany, its replacement uses a water soluble fibre and is much more expensive. Being water soluble could actually be a problem for a WFO in that the water elimination process might dissolve some of the fibres. I prefer to leave the stuff alone and use double the thickness of vermiculite instead which is at least safe. Be careful if you use blanket. Wear a good respirator when cutting and handling it. I work as an art teacher in a school in Australia and we are not meant to have any ceramic fibre where children could inhale some. eg around the seal of pottery kiln doors.

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  • brickie in oz
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    Any inhaled fibres would be a health issue like asbestos, probably worse as there is no warnings on the blanket and the air fills with fibres when its handled.

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  • building angel
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    When you say that this ceramic fibre (blanket) is dangerous.. can you explain how ?

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  • mrchipster
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    The Spam Museum is just down the road from me in Austin, Minnesota.

    SPAM > SPAM? Museum

    We take our SPAM seriously here...

    Chip

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  • brickie in oz
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    Originally posted by angel123 View Post
    Thanks for all the useful safety measures..I would like to follow them strictly....And whatever precaution we take Product defects and failure are obviously happens accidently..
    Spam spam spam spam.........

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  • angel123
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    Thanks for all the useful safety measures..I would like to follow them strictly....And whatever precaution we take Product defects and failure are obviously happens accidently..

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  • KraemerBAC
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    safety glasses are good but goggles are better. I have had many particles slip by safety glasse but have never had to flush out my eye since I purchased goggles

    Peter

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  • david s
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    We were given two eyes so we'd have one for a spare.

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  • tracygg
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    we should protect our eyes firstly, it's the most improtant thing i think

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