Re: Using Tipo 00 Flour
Hey James!
I have found that 10 grams of salt is plenty for me!
and 3 grams of yeast unless I'm looking for a really long raise.
Overnight I found 1.5 grams is about right.
glad to hear you are getting close on your outdoor kitchen
congrats my friend
Dave
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Re: Using Tipo 00 Flour
Got it. Thanks. I will fix that.
On a related topic, we are going to be issuing all the e-cookbooks, oven installation guides, the Pompeii e-book, and specification sheets on a CD ROM soon. We are wrapping up a round a major edits on all the FB Installation guides, so the timing is good.
More to come on that.
James
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the e-book for pizza on page 21 has 10 and 10.
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That's my mistake for not fixing the old page. Through trial and error, and user input, we changed the recommended recipe to 20gr salt and 3gr Dry Active yeast. I think the new recipe is better -- though the old one still works fine.
The .pdf recipe on FB.com has been updated. Where else can you still see the old one?
James
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is it possible that you made an mistake on the pdf instruction sheet? this time i can read about 20g salt and 3g dry active yeast. One year ago (i printed it out in the past and right now i look at it) we could read at the forno bravo page from 10g salt and 10g d.a.yeast. Both for 500g Molino Caputo Tipo 00 flour. So which one is the right one?? I think its a big difference between both instructions....i dont talk about milligrams..
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On the hydration question, I think it is fair to say that there is no single source of exactly what makes Pizza Napoletana. There are various web sites, cooking schools, restaurants, etc., each of which has their slight variation. There certainly are good guidelines and ranges, which everyone agrees with.
My personal experience on this is sitting in Antimo's office at the mill in Naples, and hearing him talk on the phone with a pizzeria owner in London who was having a problem. His side of the conversation basically went, "add more water...no, more water. Your dough isn't hydrated enough.... I know that ... no really, more water.... And make sure you refrigerate you dough balls over night." Very amusing.
Anyway, it left an impression on me.
James
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Originally posted by Alfredo View PostLooks like a language problem to me. One litre is .88 of a UK quart. It is 1.06 of a US quart.
Another good reason to get with the metric program
Seriously, we tried the whole kph thing. Everyone hated it. It died an ignoble death after only a few years with no state ever fully adopting it. All the mph/kph signs are gone now...
Good riddance!
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Originally posted by Alfredo View PostLooks like a language problem to me. One litre is .88 of a UK quart. It is 1.06 of a US quart.
Another good reason to get with the metric program
still, it doesn't change the 53% hydration level in the recipe assuming you work with the liter amount (33.8 ounces) and not the .88 uk quart...
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Originally posted by Alfredo View PostLooks like a language problem to me. One litre is .88 of a UK quart. It is 1.06 of a US quart.
Another good reason to get with the metric program
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Looks like a language problem to me. One litre is .88 of a UK quart. It is 1.06 of a US quart.
Another good reason to get with the metric program
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Originally posted by james View PostThere are a couple of rules.
1. Use Tipo 00 pizza flour (the VPN association specifcally recommends Caputo).
2. High hydration. They give ranges, so shoot for 60%-65%.
3. No olive oil
4. 2 hour bulk fermentation
5. 250 gram +/- dough ball
6. No mechanical dough shaping.
I have put a copy of the original VPN guidelines in the back of the pizza e-Book, but this gets you there.
James
Recipe for VPN Pizza Margherita
and this italian website calls for even less, 48% (recipe quantities located at bottom of the page)...
Pizzeria vera Napoli, come fare le pizze, ingredienti, impasto, forno. Consigli pratici
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Re: Using Tipo 00 Flour
There are a couple of rules.
1. Use Tipo 00 pizza flour (the VPN association specifcally recommends Caputo).
2. High hydration. They give ranges, so shoot for 60%-65%.
3. No olive oil
4. 2 hour bulk fermentation
5. 250 gram +/- dough ball
6. No mechanical dough shaping.
I have put a copy of the original VPN guidelines in the back of the pizza e-Book, but this gets you there.
James
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What's the official nepolitana dough recipe?
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Good instructions James-could've used it two weeks ago! I really belive the olive oil is unecessary with Caputo and has a negative effect on the dough's handling characteristics. Of course I don't really have enough real experience to support that claim, but the proof to me is in the vast difference I experienced one batch to the next with that being the only variable.
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