D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

[Greenman]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

Quite a surprise. Just posted a reply to your other thread and now you are close to closing the dome! Looks great. Only thought is if you had considered buttressing your flue gallery? I am not a brickie but I started like your entry and 'Brickie' advised that the single brick would not cut it.

This site might be of interest to you. I found it interesting and modified my entry arch to suit.

Auroville Earth Institute

[Steady]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

That is an interesting site Greenman. I have also had a look at your build and buttressing.
I had not considered buttressing the flue gallery, I am just following the kit instructions - if (maybe "when" as I see many people end up building more than 1 WFO ) I were building from scratch I would, or just as likely I would be considering a flared arch along the lines of oasiscdm's build in Werribee.

I am new to this without any experience to building structures with bricks or arches - so I am really just having a guess as to why Ben Guilford decided his kits don't need buttressing. My thoughts are that the horizontal forces are greatly reduced by the use of a one piece cast flue gallery instead of fire bricks. The inner arch is buttressed by the dome (?) and the outer arch in this kit is narrow, (approx 75mm wide bricks) so less mass than I see on many builds here. The flue gallery that is moulded to shape then sits over everything without adding downward force to either arch, and the associated horizontal thrust that the weight of a brick built flue gallery would normally generate. The cast gallery also "clips" for want of a better word over the ends of the arch sort of working like a restraint - as I said just a guess and I am happy to be educated (set straight so to speak)

Here is a link with photos and a clip of the kit that shows the moulded/cast flue gallery.

PreCut Brick Oven Kits

[Greenman]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

Hi Steady. I had a look at the cast piece over the outer arch and what you say (and the instructions) make sense now. That would hold it all together and the force being applied by it would be downwards. Without that cast piece then it would be more like I said (thanks to Brickie for his advice at the time).

The inner arch is buttressed by the dome as you suggest.

That is a good looking kit.

[Steady]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

Yes, I am impressed with the quality and design of the kit. I also like the detailed written and video instructions.

[cobblerdave]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

G'day steady
Post 14 pic three shows a straight line of mortar where the entrance meets the dome. Thus the entrance brick is not tied back to the dome. Mine is the same as its built separate to the dome. Yes it has cracks. Heat does that. The roof of the entrance of mine is flat as well being built on angle iron supports and has an arch in the front for esthetics.
I mulled over the brickies posts and added the side walls, the buttressing as as sensible mod. A brick veneer house has an internal frame to give strenght and a single row of bricks. A double brick wall has no supporting frame as is designed to stand alone.
Another thing to keep in mind is that your entrance is fire brick which are not water resistant like a house brick is designed to be. Drop a firebrick in water and you see how fast they can obsorb water. In your climate is is something you'll need to consider.
Hope something here helps
Regards dave

[Steady]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

Hope something here helps
Regards dave

Thanks cobblerdave, information from people with experience is always appreciated. I believe others on this forum have built the same kit as mine - I will spend sometime reading up on modifications they may have made and how their finished ovens are standing up. I have been soaking my bricks in water before laying them (as per the kit instructions) and I have seen them fizz as the air is quickly replaced by water - the weather where I live will mean the bricks at the front of the oven entrance will be getting wet as often as they are not

PS. Can you please edit your post with the correct post number - you mentioned the 3rd photo on post 23 - but there are not that many posts in this thread yet so I don't know which one to look at.

[oasiscdm]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

Another kit from Ben. Gee I think he is up to 6 or 7 loaded up on here now.

They are very good kits though.

[Steady]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

They are very good kits though.

Yes, I felt it was the best kit out of the ones that I could find when I was looking

As you say, there are a few around now - I have not read of anyone having any major issues with them.

[Drac]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

G'day. I just started the same kit a few weeks ago. Looks like you are making good progress. Drac.

[Steady]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

G'day. I just started the same kit a few weeks ago. Looks like you are making good progress. Drac.

G'day Drac, I've been going a few months now but work is getting in the way at the moment so progress has temporarily stopped. I thought I would get an arvo in last weekend but some livestock issues put an end to that. I hope you start a thread with lots of photos.

[Drac]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

No worries. Might post a few pics later today. Just finished the dome.

[Drac]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

Started a new thread with pics if you are interested Steady.
http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...tml#post186806
Drac.

[Steady]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

I have time this weekend to work on my oven and what do you know, the forecast is for rain tomorrow.....

[CrocAu]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

G'day steady
Post 14 pic three shows a straight line of mortar where the entrance meets the dome. Thus the entrance brick is not tied back to the dome. Mine is the same as its built separate to the dome. Yes it has cracks. Heat does that. The roof of the entrance of mine is flat as well being built on angle iron supports and has an arch in the front for esthetics.

its well hidden by Ben, he is smart cookie and he modified the opening 2 or 3 years ago to make it even easier to build, I can't remember of my head now but there was 2 or 3 bricks interlocked with the dome bricks opening and then you have the flue gallery holding it up as well, that thing isn't going anywhere.

i have to say if i was building new oven i would go to see Ben without even thinking twice, I'm using my oven for about two years now and it is great, heats up and holds temperatures really well, had pizza yesterday and today i done bread without reheating the oven and just now i loaded up little bit of wood to bring it back to pizza temperatures in less then 30min

[cobblerdave]

Re: D105 Pre-Cut brick kit build in Tassie

G'day
Interesting to hear that it locks back into the brickwork of the dome. That's great and it is a great kit build. There's been a few of them built now. There fairly distinctive with the thin brick layer in the entranceway. The caste chimney entrance takes away a pretty fiddly bit of the build and I'm sure will result in very little smoke stain to the front of the oven.
Great to hear it's cooking well for you. You don't have to be a master pizza chef to turn out a great pizza. It still amazes me to this day. Great to hear that you've discovering it use for other cooking as well.
Regards dave