Rustic Primitive Materials

[stonecutter]

Re: Rustic Primitive Materials

One hour 15 mins later. The gravy made from the pan juices has a beautiful slight smoky flavour.As the pic shows, the meat is falling off the bone.

Those look great!

[brickie in oz]

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probably would have done better with a box of crayons.

Yeah crayons burn well.......

[david s]

Re: Rustic Primitive Materials

One hour 15 mins later. The gravy made from the pan juices has a beautiful slight smoky flavour.As the pic shows, the meat is falling off the bone.

[david s]

Re: Wooden Door

I have some 2.5 inch slabs of rough milled fir on hand... is there any reason that I cannot use a piece for my oven baking door? My understanding is that if it is water soaked it should be OK... yes?... no?

Thanks Annie ...still curing my oven... tomorrow I go for 400!

I usually fire for exactly one hour, let the flames die, push the coals to the outside and the oven is at around 250C I then place the roast and fit the wooden door(it has a 12mm insulating panel) with the door fitted the coals go out frm lack of oxygen. A wooden door works pretty well but not if the temp exceeds 300C. Without an insulating panel soaking the door may help, but the water in the door will dry pretty fast, then you're cooking your door. Facing the door with sheet steel won't achieve much because as the steel or alum. is conductive it heats up fast and still cooks your door.
In fact I'm just about to put two chickens in the oven now. Just waiting for the flames to die and the oven is on 260 C the IR says the crown of the dome is 485 C

[deejayoh]

Re: Rats!

.....I was just thinking about getting to baking temperatures requiring fire & closed door... If the oven gets hot enough for pizza with an open door why would baking require a lit oven with a closed door?

If you want to bake - then you get the fire going, and once the oven is good and hot you put the door on. That starves the fire of oxygen - but keeps all the heat inside. If you just let the fire go out with the door open and then put the door on, then the oven won't be very hot when you want to bake.

I'm talking mostly about bread here. Baguettes bake at ~550. Wood burns at about that temperature.

[cobblerdave]

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Gudday Annie
Deejayohs right about the wood door it's not a case of if it will burn its when. But in saying that if you think the efforts worth just a couple of bakes why not.
You'll find a link to my own door at the bottom . It's made of airated concrete called hebel I like it cause it was cheap and easy to make without much metal working skills. That might interest you . There's also a link on there on the last post to a timber door I built out of a packing crate which survived one bake.
Great to see you back but as usual no pic. you really are a tease Annie)
Regards dave

[deejayoh]

Re: Wooden Door

I have some 2.5 inch slabs of rough milled fir on hand... is there any reason that I cannot use a piece for my oven baking door? My understanding is that if it is water soaked it should be OK... yes?... no?

Thanks Annie ...still curing my oven... tomorrow I go for 400!

if you want to use it for baking, even soaked in water it is going to burn up in a few uses. If you want to have your oven hot enough to bake, door goes on when the oven is still lit. I don't think there's any wood that will hold up. Even when backed with metal.

[UtahBeehiver]

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You have come a long ways since I remember your first post about an organic style rock foundation. Vcrete looks good. I did find if you make a curved trowel it helps with forming and packing vrete in position on curved surfaces. Keep up the good work.

[UtahBeehiver]

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How about a pic of your oven with new vcrete. What do you have to work with on your island? I suspect you get a ton of rain so waterproofing your vcrete should be a priority. Do let your vcrete dry out as much as possible before getting too carried away with the curing of the oven.

[Tscarborough]

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8-1 4" will be good, 10-1 better but hard to work with.

[brickie in oz]

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Its getting there Annie....

[ATK406]

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Please, Please , Please take lots of pictures of your finished oven...and everything in between. Yours is such a unique design it should be appreciated by everyone....Sorry, I'm such a junkie for WFO pictures..I must have close to 500 saved so far, not all mine, thanks to you.

Regards,
AT

[brickie in oz]

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Gudday Annie
The 63 per cent figure actually comes from a study down in the 70s on wood fired ovens in Canada and is an average of the ovens studied.

I think it all comes from way before 1970.

More.

[cobblerdave]

Re: Rustic Primitive Materials

Gudday Annie
The 63 per cent figure actually comes from a study down in the 70s on wood fired ovens in Canada and is an average of the ovens studied. If your less than 2/3 oven height and you are you good to go. Oven height is 1/2 inch over optimum if you keep quite about that I will not say a word.
Buy the way that is shaping up to be quite a Pretty oven, suits its surounds
Regards Dave

[mrchipster]

Re: Voila!!

OK... here it is...

I have put the form on two wooden 'skids' so I can get it out once the vault roof sets... do not want to burn the particle board it may contaminate my oven... cupboards are made with all kinds of nasty stuff.

I did not cut the batten ends because I never cut unless it is absolutely necessary... only have a hand saw & the battens are actually stakes for my garden.

I recommend to add some tapered shims under your skids to raise them slightly the shims can be removed easily and make it much easier to remove the skids later.

Chip