36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

[brickie in oz]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

surprisingly most of the group had never tried a Chicago style pizza.

Is that where you all get shot by a gangster?

[Bec1208]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

We are hosting a book club tomorrow so I may not be able to work on the oven. The book is "Game Change" which is about the 2008 presidential election. So I plan to bake a few Chicago style pizzas to tie into the book.

Pizzas were a hit, surprisingly most of the group had never tried a Chicago style pizza.

[Bec1208]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Cut brick for the next course and laid out using modeling clay. We are hosting a book club tomorrow so I may not be able to work on the oven. The book is "Game Change" which is about the 2008 presidential election. So I plan to bake a few Chicago style pizzas to tie into the book.

[Bec1208]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday Bruce
Back on the job. For a while there I thought you might be taking another holiday to get over the first holiday
Now your into IT territory I picked up on a comment by Greenman on another thread. Basically what he said is because the IT tool doesn't rotate directly on the hearth but on the old axle of the wheel of the caster it has a built in discrepancy. His figures ( from memory) was his build would be 10 mm out (approx 1/2 in) by the time he got to the top of the dome and he had made a 1mm adjustment to every course to compensate. Food for thought.
On the home front I have managed to finish the brickwork over the dome have also "brick tiled" the surrounds . Looks so much better balanced and I happy the go from one of the ugliest builds on the forum to one that I'm pleased with.
The girth of the dome has become a little more "portly" with the additional brick and now covers the stand edge to edge bar an in either side . I measured it at 1750 mm or 70 ins. Hard to believe there's a 42 in oven in there, suppose when you think about it 1/2 of it would be insulation.
Thought I might have to extent the chimney a bit but it worked out fine and with the buttressing is a lot better balanced.
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Old photo of my oven :....pretty ugly hah
Regards dave

Actually, I'm starting to plan next trip (probably in August). I definitely like the new look of your oven. Regarding the IT, I have it pretty centered on the hearth. I've actually been shortening it slightly as I want to bring the dome height down an inch or so. I finished off the current course today so it's back to the brick cutting for the next level. Regards, Bruce

[cobblerdave]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday Bruce
Back on the job. For a while there I thought you might be taking another holiday to get over the first holiday
Now your into IT territory I picked up on a comment by Greenman on another thread. Basically what he said is because the IT tool doesn't rotate directly on the hearth but on the old axle of the wheel of the caster it has a built in discrepancy. His figures ( from memory) was his build would be 10 mm out (approx 1/2 in) by the time he got to the top of the dome and he had made a 1mm adjustment to every course to compensate. Food for thought.
On the home front I have managed to finish the brickwork over the dome have also "brick tiled" the surrounds . Looks so much better balanced and I happy the go from one of the ugliest builds on the forum to one that I'm pleased with.
The girth of the dome has become a little more "portly" with the additional brick and now covers the stand edge to edge bar an in either side . I measured it at 1750 mm or 70 ins. Hard to believe there's a 42 in oven in there, suppose when you think about it 1/2 of it would be insulation.
Thought I might have to extent the chimney a bit but it worked out fine and with the buttressing is a lot better balanced.

Old photo of my oven :....pretty ugly hah
Regards dave

[Bec1208]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Rain finally passed through and sun came out today. Tried the home brew and was much easier to work with. Did most of the next course. Won't win any beauty prizes but should hold together.

[cobblerdave]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday
Thanks heaps for clearing that one up Gulf it really is all in the terms
Regards dave

[Gulf]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday Bruce
Type N mortar should be premix Portland,lime,sand at 1:1:3 with the addition of 1 part fireclay to 5 parts N-type mortar you then have "home brew".
Sorry I didnt realize before that things usually come pre mixed in the states.
Regards dave

Dave,
We have to look at the "wording" very close here in the states. Type N mortar would have the sand pre-added. (just add water). Type N masonry cement would be 1/2 Portland and 1/2 hydrated lime (or the equivelant). The sand would have to be added to make mortar.

Edit: That is two posts that I replied to that ya'll have already been covered. Sorry .

[Bec1208]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday Bruce
Type N mortar should be premix Portland,lime,sand at 1:1:3 with the addition of 1 part fireclay to 5 parts N-type mortar you then have "home brew".
Sorry I didnt realize before that things usually come pre mixed in the states.
Regards dave

Dave, I bought type N masonry cement (not mortar) which I believe is 1/2 Portland and 1/2 lime. So shouldn't mix be 2 parts mix:3 parts sand:1 part fireclay?

[cobblerdave]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday Bruce
Type N mortar should be premix Portland,lime,sand at 1:1:3 with the addition of 1 part fireclay to 5 parts N-type mortar you then have "home brew".
Sorry I didnt realize before that things usually come pre mixed in the states.
Regards dave

[Bec1208]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Back in town, though rained off and on today. Picked up some modeling clay (ala kbartman) and did a rough layout of the next course. Worked pretty well, though I will need to do some custom cuts.. I also picked up some type N masonary cement and all purpose sand (I already have a bag of fireclay). I will try using home brew for the next course. We enjoyed the road trip, though good to be home for a while. Bruce

[Wayne73]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

I dont think people soak the bricks to get them to stick, but soak them so the bricks dont suck all the moisture out of the mortar .

[brickie in oz]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Im wasnt chest beating Dave, I just find it surprising that ppl have trouble sticking mortar to a brick, if the mortar is fatty and plastic enough it will stick to anything.

[cobblerdave]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

Gudday brickie
No one would doubt you could layer bricks together with dust off the ground and a bit of spit if you had to.
Same mortar, same brick, same mug on the end of the trowel the variable was the brick dust. I'm still suprised its effect.
No it didn't soak the bricks I washed them of and let them dry in the sun and made up fresh mortar.
Yes I did us a squit of dish washing liquid
Regards dave

[brickie in oz]

Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

G
No wonder poor old bricky cannot understand why everyone soaks their bricks to make them stick!!!!

Dave, Ive laid dry cut bricks, and wet cut bricks, Ive laid bricks that have just dust on them and Ive never come across non sticking mortar.
Make the mortar to suit the bricks.