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  • gastagg
    Journeyman
    • May 2013
    • 271

    #106
    Thanks for the support and encouragement guys! My final dimensions turned out to be right at 33" internal floor diameter, which I'm happy about. Questions about the door...a friend of mine is a metal fabricator and is going to be helping me out. Because of my large opening relative to the size of my oven, I am planning to build an insulated door and put operable sliding vents on the door...one up top and one one the bottom. I'm planning a 2" layer of calcium silicate (encased in sheet metal) attached to the door front with a piece of cement board in between. I've attached a drawing. It's not to scale. I don't have the handles or the vents in the back two pieces shown either. Any suggestions on the vents? Anyone else done that? Do I need the cement board or some insulative material?
    George

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    • Gulf
      Member Moderator
      • Sep 2011
      • 3883

      #107
      I think that it would be easier to build two doors. A simple blast door can be made from one layer of steel with no insulation. The vents would probably just complicate the insulated door and may even make it less efficient.
      Joe Watson " A year from now, you will wish that you had started today" My Build Album / My Build

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      • gastagg
        Journeyman
        • May 2013
        • 271

        #108
        Good idea Gulf. Imontee's door looks perfect. I think I'm going to copy him a bit. Thanks Imontee! Ready for the vent arch this weekend...
        George

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        • RandyJ
          Il Pizzaiolo
          • May 2010
          • 1191

          #109
          Good luck on building the vent arch this weekend. I am sure it will go well.

          Randy

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          • gastagg
            Journeyman
            • May 2013
            • 271

            #110
            Didn't get started as early as I wanted to today...got the supports for the arch done. Note the thermal break and rope. Thanks forum members for diagrams on the thermal break and rope. I'm anywhere from 1/8" to 1/4" on the break space.
            George

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            • gastagg
              Journeyman
              • May 2013
              • 271

              #111
              Any recommendation on how to mount some sort of a device to the top of the dome to serve as a center point for one of those cool plywood arcs used for getting a consistent thickness of stucco?
              George

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              • Gulf
                Member Moderator
                • Sep 2011
                • 3883

                #112
                Originally posted by gastagg
                Any recommendation on how to mount some sort of a device to the top of the dome to serve as a center point for one of those cool plywood arcs used for getting a consistent thickness of stucco?

                It wouldn't be hardly worth it for the relatively thin thickness of stucco (3/4 to 1" thick). Unless you took a lot of time with truing your blanket layer. But, building a three point tripod works good for truing a vecrete layer over lumpy insulation. Look at my build or Russell's (UtahBeehiver) Picasa web album .
                Last edited by Gulf; 08-29-2015, 04:02 PM.
                Joe Watson " A year from now, you will wish that you had started today" My Build Album / My Build

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                • gastagg
                  Journeyman
                  • May 2013
                  • 271

                  #113
                  OK, that's helpful. Thanks.
                  George

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                  • Gulf
                    Member Moderator
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 3883

                    #114
                    Sorry,
                    I forgot about recently including those links for Johanr's build. He fashioned one also. I'm not sure how it pivots but, the dome looks to be a perfect sphere .

                    Joe Watson " A year from now, you will wish that you had started today" My Build Album / My Build

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                    • gastagg
                      Journeyman
                      • May 2013
                      • 271

                      #115
                      Thanks Gulf!

                      Question, is James' recommended curing schedule still considered a good approach? I plan to use charcoal and want to start soon. Also, how long do I need to let the vent arch bricks set before starting the curing fires?
                      George

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                      • gastagg
                        Journeyman
                        • May 2013
                        • 271

                        #116
                        Another question...I've watched the video of installing insulation and wire mesh (thanks Gulf!). My question is where should I fasten the wire mesh. This insulation is very dense and I could easily put a screw in it and it would hold to strap down the wire mesh. When mrchipster was helping me, he noted that my insulation board was much more dense than the FB board. I think it's CalSil...that's what the machinist said who sold it to me and was using it as a barrier for his welding tanks. Anyway, I've attached a photo of where I'm planning to attached the mesh and a diagram showing how I'm planning to install the blanket, spacers, and wire mesh. Would love some feedback on this.
                        George

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                        • Gulf
                          Member Moderator
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3883

                          #117
                          How about gluing some cheap framing brackets down to the cement with liquid nails. You can run a piece of tie wire through the existing hole for a tie down, or use that hole to mount your spacer .
                          Joe Watson " A year from now, you will wish that you had started today" My Build Album / My Build

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                          • william
                            Laborer
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 90

                            #118
                            Hi
                            I tried to screw into the bottom insulation also and found it better for me to put concrete screws with a washer to tie a wire to into the cement pad around the perimeter, the stucco coats will cover them.
                            It worked well for me
                            Bill

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                            • gastagg
                              Journeyman
                              • May 2013
                              • 271

                              #119
                              Think the liquid nails would be strong enough? I think that regardless of method, I'm going to attach to the concrete slab. Thanks guys. Bill, your dome came out looking very nice.
                              George

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                              See my build album here.

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                              • UtahBeehiver
                                Member *********
                                • May 2012
                                • 5256

                                #120
                                G,

                                Why not just tapcon the wire strap to your concrete hearth, it will be covered up anyway by the stucco and wire. You won't have to worry about pull out on the concrete. I used CaSi too and I am not sure it will hold a screw very well.
                                Russell
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