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Ceramic fibre blanket is a class 2 carcinogen. Tests on rats have produced tumors, but so far there have been no recorded cases linking the product to cancer in humans, but as cancers can take many years to show up there is still a cloud over its use. The stuff is banned in Germany, its replacement uses a water soluble fibre and is much more expensive. Being water soluble could actually be a problem for a WFO in that the water elimination process might dissolve some of the fibres. I prefer to leave the stuff alone and use double the thickness of vermiculite instead which is at least safe. Be careful if you use blanket. Wear a good respirator when cutting and handling it. I work as an art teacher in a school in Australia and we are not meant to have any ceramic fibre where children could inhale some. eg around the seal of pottery kiln doors.Originally posted by building angel View PostWhen you say that this ceramic fibre (blanket) is dangerous.. can you explain how ?Kindled with zeal and fired with passion.
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Can't agree, it is the fibres that are the problem and although they are held within the binder, on bending and handling, loose fibres will still become airborne, particularly when cutting the blanket.Originally posted by Johnny the oven man View PostCeramic fibre blanket is only dangerous when it has been fired and the binders have burnt out from the product. This only happens in the higher ranges of temperatures, which will never happen in a WFO. Yes, wear protection, but the sky is not going to fall down.Kindled with zeal and fired with passion.
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Yes, it could be safe, but as cancers often take a long time to develop after exposure to carcinogens we might be in a waiting game. My Dad was a medical officer during one of the Maralinga nuclear tests. He died of cancer, probably as a result of exposure, 24 years after. You should have been given the MSDS on the stuff, here it is if you want to check it out.Originally posted by Johnny the oven man View PostYes, agree on both parts, but as it has been mentioned, NO human cases of cancer have been detected, only rats that have ingested the product have had issues.
I have been in the refractory industry for 30 years, and have never heard of anyone having any dramas.
Also, it is not the ingestion that is the problem it is inhalation. It's when it gets into your lungs not your stomach that is the worry.I work in a school and we are not allowed to let children have any contact with it.
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On the topic of ceramic fibre blankets ... I'm about to insulate my dome that has unfortunatley cracked during curing. I've patched the cracks from the outside, but i'm concerned that if further cracks develop, exposing the ceramic fibre blanket to the cooking chamber could it be a safety issue when cooking?
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Yeah, I'd be concerned too. The fibres are considered dangerous if inhaled. I think they're ok if ingested. If you've sealed the cracks from the outside then there should be no way they can get out, but with expansion and contraction going on there could be some abrasive action going on where the blanket contacts the dome.Kindled with zeal and fired with passion.
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Safety issue with power tools!
LEAVE GUARDS IN PLACE! THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON!
I had 8 stitches across the top of my left index finger last summer, and 6 across the top of my left thumb--a different time!
Both times from using a 1mm thick cutting wheel on an angle grinder that broke while cutting metal. Guard removed to get a slightly deeper cut! (In my hand unfortunately)
It is so quick that you do not even feel it until you look at the blood all over your hand and feel a burning sensation ---then you say " Oh s--t!" and it's too late! Time to get some stitches again! BTW the throbbing reoccurs when your hands get cold!
"Beginners usually do not get hurt as often"---they read safety instructions!
It is once you start feeling too comfortable with the job you are doing that you get overconfident! A lot of pros can show off their scars and missing parts!
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I feel your pain. Last summer while working on my outdoor kitchen, I had such a cutting wheel break in half. One half flew across the yard, the other half lodged itself firmly in my face. Fortunately they were able to glue the 1.5" gash back together. Still have a scar, but not nearly as bad as it could have been.Originally posted by mikku View PostSafety issue with power tools!
LEAVE GUARDS IN PLACE! THEY ARE THERE FOR A REASON!
I had 8 stitches across the top of my left index finger last summer, and 6 across the top of my left thumb--a different time!
Both times from using a 1mm thick cutting wheel on an angle grinder that broke while cutting metal. Guard removed to get a slightly deeper cut! (In my hand unfortunately)
It is so quick that you do not even feel it until you look at the blood all over your hand and feel a burning sensation ---then you say " Oh s--t!" and it's too late! Time to get some stitches again! BTW the throbbing reoccurs when your hands get cold!
"Beginners usually do not get hurt as often"---they read safety instructions!
It is once you start feeling too comfortable with the job you are doing that you get overconfident! A lot of pros can show off their scars and missing parts!
Lesson learned? Don't buy cheap azz cutting wheels and always wear a proper face shield.
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My wheel was not cheap, the technique of use was faulty!
The wound excavated meat a bit and mixed glove together--so vigorous cleaning was necessary, so my finger has the "face lift" appearance from drawing baggy skin taunt!
Yep! Safety no laughing matter, stupidity is!
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