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  • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

    I put the insulated door in about 9:30 pm. Temps from thermocouples read about 750F mid brick center of floor and 550F about 2/3 up the dome about a foot to the right of the entry. When I checked at midnight bricks were saturated and all read within a few degrees or 620F. This morning at 9:30 temps were 515F.

    A few asides. I found I could use the insulated door during the heating process by rearranging the entry bricks. Finally here is a pic of my prep table. Turned out to be pretty cramped.
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    • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

      I took a Sicilian pizza and a Neapolitan pizza to a potluck Saturday and they were well received. Don't plan on firing the oven back up until stucco is done. Oven temp was 260 F this a.m. and we will cook a few casseroles today.

      Have been trying to finish shaping and wiring dome. Prepared my vent plug and am just about done. May try to start stucco tomorrow. Bruce
      Link to my build here:
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      • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

        Way to go Bruce, your hard work paid off!
        Russell
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        • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

          Gudday Bruce
          Sounds like that ovens being used to its fullest. From the temps you have posted its starting to get to its best performance. I can't think of anyone that has arrived at this stage of the build and has had an insulated door already constructed! It just doesn't happen at this stage it's usually a flurry of questions on tools and doors ... I was the same.
          That looks like a great dome vent the wires a good idea. If I could just add a last suggestion. Roll up a tube of cereal box grade cardboard and poke it in the bottom long enough to get into the insulation layer. It will prevent any stray bit of stucco from blocking it and survive long enough for the stucco to set. It will be moist at that stage and easy to remove.
          You then go to the skills suite list and tick the box along side "cement casting" ...only joking.
          Regards dave
          Measure twice
          Cut once
          Fit in position with largest hammer

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          • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

            Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
            Gudday Bruce

            That looks like a great dome vent the wires a good idea. If I could just add a last suggestion. Roll up a tube of cereal box grade cardboard and poke it in the bottom long enough to get into the insulation layer. It will prevent any stray bit of stucco from blocking it and survive long enough for the stucco to set. It will be moist at that stage and easy to remove.
            You then go to the skills suite list and tick the box along side "cement casting" ...only joking.
            Regards dave
            Dave you got me to thinking, any reason not to lower the vent a few inches into the insulation? It measures 7" thick at the top. This would lower the profile of the vent and I don't think have much effect on heat retention. I like the idea of the cardboard, thanks for the tip.

            Originally posted by UtahBeehiver View Post
            Way to go Bruce, your hard work paid off!
            Thanks Russell, hard to believe its almost done. Assuming the igloo looks okay, I would like to put some kind of roof structure that will cover the oven and the green egg while extending far enough forward to provide some shade and shelter while cooking or grilling.

            Bruce
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            Check out my pictures here:

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            • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

              Wow Bruce,
              Just caught up on reading your about build. Job well done, very impressed. Hope your enjoying the fruits of your labor. You have left me in the your dust............that ok I'm happy for ya
              Respectfully,

              KB

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              • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                Gudday Bruce
                I can't see why you can't recess that in , in the scene of things that will not make a difference. I a bit confused with the size of that thing , its not a fitting that I'm familiar with and its hard to gauge it size by the background.
                Good stucco ing remember its like painting the first layer is just there for the next to stick too. It doesn't have to perfect. The next are the best ones. 3 thin coats are better than two thick coats .....any day.
                Regards dave
                Measure twice
                Cut once
                Fit in position with largest hammer

                My Build
                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                My Door
                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f28/...ock-17190.html

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                • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                  Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
                  Gudday Bruce
                  I can't see why you can't recess that in , in the scene of things that will not make a difference. I a bit confused with the size of that thing , its not a fitting that I'm familiar with and its hard to gauge it size by the background.
                  Good stucco ing remember its like painting the first layer is just there for the next to stick too. It doesn't have to perfect. The next are the best ones. 3 thin coats are better than two thick coats .....any day.
                  Regards dave
                  I had intended to use a 2" fitting to begin with. I decided later to use a 1". This is what mine looks like recessesd.


                  Edit: It is a 2"+ (beer can size) from the blanket insulation through the vermicrete layer. The space left by the beer can form is also packed with CF blanket material. My threaded 1" PVC fitting is anchored into the stucco layer and also the grout for the brick splits.
                  Last edited by Gulf; 07-29-2013, 07:56 PM.
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                  • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                    Originally posted by Gulf View Post
                    I had intended to use a 2" fitting to begin with. I decided later to use a 1". This is what mine looks like recessesd.


                    Edit: It is a 2"+ (beer can size) from the blanket insulation through the vermicrete layer. The space left by the beer can form is also packed with CF blanket material. My threaded 1" PVC fitting is anchored into the stucco layer and also the grout for the brick splits.
                    Gudday gulf
                    Yes mines a 1 in fitting as well . I recon the chicken wire has thrown my perspective. How big is that thing anyway
                    Regards dave
                    Measure twice
                    Cut once
                    Fit in position with largest hammer

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                    • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                      Originally posted by cobblerdave View Post
                      Gudday gulf
                      Yes mines a 1 in fitting as well . I recon the chicken wire has thrown my perspective. How big is that thing anyway
                      Regards dave
                      I went with a 3" fitting. I thought plug would be easier to handle and did not see a down side.
                      Link to my build here:
                      http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                      Check out my pictures here:

                      Selected pictures of the build.

                      https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                      sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                      • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                        Originally posted by kbartman View Post
                        Wow Bruce,
                        Just caught up on reading your about build. Job well done, very impressed. Hope your enjoying the fruits of your labor. You have left me in the your dust............that ok I'm happy for ya
                        Thanks, it helps not having a day job (or night job),
                        Link to my build here:
                        http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                        Check out my pictures here:

                        Selected pictures of the build.

                        https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                        sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                        • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                          Originally posted by Bec1208 View Post
                          I went with a 3" fitting. I thought plug would be easier to handle and did not see a down side.
                          Gudday
                          Why don't you take a hacksaw to it,is there anything to stop you making it shorter? And use what you have got then
                          Regards Dave
                          Measure twice
                          Cut once
                          Fit in position with largest hammer

                          My Build
                          http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f51/...ild-14444.html
                          My Door
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                          • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                            Originally posted by stonecutter View Post
                            You really shouldnt stucco in sections because that creates weak points and the layer will crack...think of it like a control joint in concrete flatwork. If its easier do several thin coats.
                            Stonecutter, I tried and I couldn't do it. This is as far as I could get.
                            Link to my build here:
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                            Check out my pictures here:

                            Selected pictures of the build.

                            https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                            sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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                            • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                              Don't sweat it Bruce, I described best practice and what you did isn't too bad. You can brush some liquid bonding agent ( like an acrylic admix) onto it before you start your next parge.
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                              • Re: 36" build in Tallahassee - AKA Bruce's Folly

                                Originally posted by stonecutter View Post
                                Don't sweat it Bruce, I described best practice and what you did isn't too bad. You can brush some liquid bonding agent ( like an acrylic admix) onto it before you start your next parge.
                                Took another run at it. This time I enlisted my wife's help. It went much better with her scooping the stucco onto my board. Nonetheless, we ran out of mortar before we could finish coating the whole dome. Bruce
                                Link to my build here:
                                http://www.fornobravo.com/forum/f6/3...lly-19181.html

                                Check out my pictures here:

                                Selected pictures of the build.

                                https://picasaweb.google.com/1168565...g&noredirect=1





                                sigpic “In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.” ― Albert Einstein

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