Elizabeth's oven

[asudavew]

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At what point did you all decide to go to 3rds on the bricks? When the inverted V size offended your sense of propriety? When it got too hard to deal with placing the half bricks? Or will I know it's time when I get there?

I would say you will be using thirds in 2 or 3 courses.
When you get tired of looking at the bigger V size......

Looks great.

Good luck getting it done before vacation! It will make it easier to leave it alone if you are gone.

[egalecki]

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And some more pictures...

I have some internal odd looking bits where it hits the arch- from using odd shaped pieces that weren't quite long enough, I think. I'm not that worried about how they look, since no one can see them when I'm finished unless I'm cooking them...

One of the disadvantages of having a small saw is the sharp edges left when you break the brick the rest of the way through. My right knee is covered with scrapes and scratches from rubbing up against those sharp edges as I work my way around the dome, standing on the ledge... I guess I'll have to switch to long pants today and just deal with the sweat.

And before anyone says anything, yes, those are my feet, and no, I never wear sandals while I work!

[egalecki]

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I finally got to work on it again! I'm going to clean up my area some in a minute and then work some more today- I'm hoping to get it closed in before we go on vacation next Saturday. Then it can dry out for a week without me having to watch it dry....

So far-
tying into the arch hasn't been too bad. Good thing I got an angle grinder to help with that, though. The gaps (inverted V's) haven't been too bad so far, but I can see that I'm going to have to go to cutting the bricks into thirds at some point soon. Keeping it round is not too bad yet, using the amazing string.

At what point did you all decide to go to 3rds on the bricks? When the inverted V size offended your sense of propriety? When it got too hard to deal with placing the half bricks? Or will I know it's time when I get there?

[egalecki]

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We had one guy who worked for a cabinet company who had quite possibly the worst case of plumber's crack I've ever had the misfortune to witness. Unfortunately, he also had a big scar on the exposed area, and I always wanted to ask how he got it.... He's been gone several years, and I still don't know.

I'll have to tell my husband about the caulk. He'll get a kick out of that one.

[brokencookie]

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[QUOTE=egalecki;36952] for some things. Language, spitting, "plumber's crack", etc.
QUOTE]

I used to work for a general contractor during the summer. He had a no cracks policy for his subs. We did mostly remodel work and he would stress that we were in someone's home. He expected no foul language, starting and ending on time, and keeping the jobsite clean. When he spotted a "plumber's crack" he would calmly get a caulking gun and fill it No one ever had that problem twice.

[egalecki]

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Yeah, when I asked for advice, the man said in a patronizing voice, "Ask your contractor what you need. He'll know right away when you ask him." Grr. It didn't help my cause to explain that no, when I said that I was building a pizza oven, I meant that I was doing it. If I could find another supplier I would, but I suspect that's not the last time I'll get that kind of reaction.

Oh. That makes me mad. The guys around here haven't been too bad about MY doing it- but then, they all think I'm crazy for making an oven outside at all. I haven't had a single supplier ask me where my contractor or my husband is. The little man next door, well, he's another story.

My husband and I own a construction company, so I do have to deal with a certain amount of MC piggery, but I have always found that if you just behave as though it shouldn't occur to anyone to question what you say, they usually don't. And you have to develop a little thicker hide than normal for some things. Language, spitting, "plumber's crack", etc.

I hope you can get what you need without your head exploding!

[Modthyrth]

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Yeah, when I asked for advice, the man said in a patronizing voice, "Ask your contractor what you need. He'll know right away when you ask him." Grr. It didn't help my cause to explain that no, when I said that I was building a pizza oven, I meant that I was doing it. If I could find another supplier I would, but I suspect that's not the last time I'll get that kind of reaction.

I bought new earplugs today, and am eagerly anticipating the sparks. It's too bad that I'm the photographer in the family. I'd love a picture of that part of the process.

Time to dust off the algebra skills and do some google searches to figure out what their charts actually mean.

[egalecki]

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Dave,

I do have a tarp with poles, but it's like a fly, not an ez up. I'll have to look for one that has better stability. I was originally just looking for shade, since I burn VERY quickly, but if it's gonna rain like this, I'm going to need it for water too!

I hadn't seen one for $49, so I'll check it out. Thanks for the lead.

[egalecki]

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I don't remember the gauge- the piece was 11 feet long by 3 feet wide- they cut it in half for me for free there. We had to trim it to fit later, but it was a whole lot easier to get two pieces at 5.5 feet into the van than it was to get 11 feet! It was heavier than what we'd used before, most likely overkill. If you tell them what the span is, and the thickness of the concrete, they should be able to figure out what you need.

We overlapped the two, using self tapping metal screws to hold them, and we did put a support under the hanging lip, just in case. You can see it all in earlier pictures.

When you cut it, be sure to wear goggles and ear protection. Unbelievably loud and lots of sparks.

[Modthyrth]

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Thanks so much, Elizabeth. I found a local supplier--now I just need to figure out exactly what it is I need (they really don't want to be helpful on the phone). Do you happen to remember what gauge your steel was?

[asudavew]

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Looks good Eliazbeth.
Have you thought about buying an awning to put over your oven so that you can build during the rain.
I picked one up recently at H/D.
It was 49 bucks and sets up quickly.
It's all one unit but hinged. You just open it up like a big accordion and Velcro the "roof" on!.

Here is a link to one that resembles it.

EZ Up Canopy, Pop Up Canopies & Custom Event Tents | BuyShade.com

Hope this helps.

Dave

[egalecki]

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I got mine at a building supply place in the big city nearby- you're looking for the steel which goes under concrete decks, essentially. You'll need to contact someone who does a lot of concrete forming to find a source, maybe. Your local concrete supply may know, and your local building supply stores (the real ones, who serve building contractors, not diy-ers) can also help.

Premium Steel

This is the place I got mine- we found it through building homes which had elevated porches, garages, etc. (not a whole lot of flat land in the mountains!)

the sun has abruptly come out- maybe I'll be able to work a bit this afternoon!

[Modthyrth]

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Hey Elizabeth--

I'm gearing up to do my hearth pour, and I really like what you did with the metal decking. I've tried looking in my local Home Depot and Lowes, but they don't carry such a product. What kind of place did you get yours?

Sorry to hear about all the rain. I'll be gearing up to work on my dome just about when monsoon season hits, so I expect I'll know your pain soon.

[egalecki]

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I am so frustrated I could scream! It keeps raining and raining. My oven looks like a bird bath (or a mosquito nursery). It sits forlornly under its blue tarp, waiting for a window of opportunity to work on it. I feel like I'm going to mildew.

Hard to complain when we were way too dry last year, and technically still are, but geez. I can't ride, either- my horse objects to going out in mud up to his knees...

so what do frustrated oven builders do when they can't build????

[PizzaJNKY]

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Ha! I think I will be struggling afterward with sourdough and its mysteries, achieving the perfect crust, and figuring out how to get more in the oven than will fit!

Good Point Elizabeth! I've started reading a bread making book and it feels like I need a PHD in chemistry to bake...If you ever figure out sourdough mysteries, please let me know.