new build in werribee

[oasiscdm]

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Partner thinks she is a pizza oven widow. as I'm always researching stuff.

[reccymech]

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Partner thinks she is a pizza oven widow. as I'm always researching stuff.

Yep, gotta concur with you oasis. I've even gone out and bought the book - Your Brick Oven by Russell Jeovons. A bit of a 'bible' it seems with the 'Royal Order of WFO Builders'

I can't wait to start, just got few tasks the 'Missus' wants me to do before the WFO (front portico decking , and brick BBQ which will be part of the WFO ).

[brickie in oz]

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I've even gone out and bought the book - Your Brick Oven by Russell Jeovons.

I too had the misfortune of paying for the book too, its full of misinformation about how to build an oven.

[cobblerdave]

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I too had the misfortune of paying for the book too, its full of misinformation about how to build an oven.

Gudday brickie
I disagree... But only with the one word. "Misinformation"should read " out of date information".
Modern materials, modern methods even modern communications ( ie the forum) have brought the wood fired oven ahead.
I lived for a while in a little country town with what I know now as a welsh side draught oven. It baked bread and pastry for 80 odd yrs but in the end technology and modern transport killed it.
I think we should not forget our history least a bit of clay straw and cow shit render might come in handy....one day
Regards dave

[oasiscdm]

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hi guys need some calming influences.

Found flue in US [SuperPro], great price even with aus dollar down. $360US for the 5 items I need. Same as Russell's flue sort of.

Freight? now that sucks found it at $120US but the catch!
bloody volumetric pricing increases that to $380US.

Volumetric pricing increases the weight from 18kg to 44kg.

Don't get it just want a cheaper solution. Any ideas?

[reccymech]

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I'm probably not the one with any real knowledge (yet), so what info I have gathered regarding a flue is try this mob:

Pivot Online - Your online spare parts shop

They're an Aussie heating specialist that has by the look of their website all manner of parts for flues. Just maybe, you never know.

[oasiscdm]

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well after a day yesterday where I had to do other things around the house [install front door light, fix herb garden water tank so it doesn't turn inside out, yes that's right inside out]. I got to oven today, and it was.........well a disaster. If I cut the left and right hand arch transition brick once I cut it a dozens time [well not quite that bad], jig does not help with that one. I lay it and get the dreaded droop, pull it up reposition still not happy so pull it up.

Well after pulling it up 3 times I got it in. Come in checked some other builds decided to live with it fix it next course which will complete transition.

So,, after well half a day,, I got 2 arch bricks layed, 2 transition bricks either side and 2 ring bricks layed ready for tomorrow and the last two arch bricks cut.

Didn't take photos as I was annoyed at such little progress this weekend.

Damn next weekend have to do some work on partners property before she lets it out again. I so wanted to get the transition finished this weekend. NOT A HAPPY WFO CHAPPY.

Decided to forget importing flue from US they wanted nearly $400 just to ship it. Couldn't get it much less than that. Found someone here that will make up what I need. But probably wont go with them as I need a 1.2m flue and don't want joins they cannot do that.

[Greenman]

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Hey Colin

I think the slow/disappointing days are part of the journey. They certainly present a steep learning curve!

I am surprised that local sheet metal fabricators can't do the flue and associated bits and I am sure that the sheet sizes will allow 1200 sections to be fabricated in one piece. I know I can get it done in Bundaberg (not that is much use to you in Canberra). I am also aware of sheet metal fabricators/spinners in Brisbane who are capable of quality work like this.

Good luck with getting a productive session next time you get a shot at it.

[oasiscdm]

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Hi Steve
Thx for the encouragement spent some time studying a couple of other builds. I Live in Melbourne actually and have spoken to all Flue fabricators and not one will do longer than 900mm, we have 5 major manufactures in and around Melbourne and have rung them all. I have found a couple of specialists and will call them during the week.
Am thinking maybe go square with the flue since I have too get one made up. But then I think to hard to clean out as I assume the flue needs cleaning from time to time.

Hopefully today will get stuck into it.

Has anyone used a square flue previously?

[david s]

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Go to any sheet metal shop and they can make exactly what you want.Those 900 mm long flue pipes are designed to join to one another. They mate really well so you can add as many sections as you want and therefore go as tall as you want.

[oasiscdm]

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Hi David thx

I know that [join lengths] but am looking at a single length as I don't want any joins. Will call fabricators during the week.

Well I got some bricks layed today before running out of sand half way through course 6, layed the second brick either side of the transition bricks and cannot see much droop. So all the piss farting around yesterday I feel paid off and layed the second last arch brick and the gaps work out exactly as planned. Yippee. This course so far is the best and most accurate, now I am slowing down and being patient.

Yesterdays effort.

[oasiscdm]

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Todays effort.

[oasiscdm]

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Some more to check dreaded droop and arch. Me deliberating on wtf won't this work.

[UtahBeehiver]

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Colin,

The droop is minor and you can adjust after you clear the arch, just make the adjustments over a couple courses rather than one. On a old post I missed. I did use chicken wire after I applied the second layer of CF insulation but under the Perlcrete. I just took my time cutting and fitting the CF, it is really nasty stuff, fibers get airborne really easy, so where a dust mask. Where long sleeves too, better yet some Aussie suggested by a pair of disposable paper coveralls then you just chuck in the garbage can when you are done. There is light at the end of the tunnel on your build.

[david s]

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Hi David thx

I know that [join lengths] but am looking at a single length as I don't want any joins. Will call fabricators during the week.

The sheets normally come in 8 x 4 ft size so an 8 ft length is probably your max size, but your sheet metal worker will need to have equip to handle that length.you can get them to manufacture the length with a slight taper so another length can slide inside the first.It's pretty neat.