new build in werribee

[oasiscdm]

Hi All

As they say patience is a virtue.

I now have ordered the floor tiles I have been seeking for 15 months in preparation to build my 2nd oven when we move in 3ish weeks. I have obtained 22 610x305x75mm tiles 42 alumina, $130 freight to Melbourne but enough to build 2 1m oven floors and 1 tandoor probably with some left over after that. Okay why order so many you might ask. Since these were so hard to obtain it was easier to buy the lot. These were not cheap by any stretch of the imagination but 75mm thick refractory Tiles are very hard to come by at around $45 each [thanks to my favourite supplier here in Melbourne].

My current oven used around 14 290 x 290.

[oasiscdm]

Now here is an interesting snippet my supplier told me yesterday. There is a factory that's closed down somewhere in Sydney and they have Refractory slabs 460x300x150 thick. Now that would make an amazing floor, only problem is they weigh 70kg each. Shame we cannot get them cut in half to 75mm slabs. Apparently there are quite a lot.

Still cannot find those elusive 75mm refractory tiles.

I was told that if people wanted to share a pallet about 80 per pallet at 300x300x75. Your need about 20 for a 40-42 inch floor. They can be made up but I am not sure of the price.

I am reluctant to use a 50 and 25 mm tile base on next oven 2 50mm tiles I feel a little to much thermal mass.

[oasiscdm]

Not at all Dave anytime.


Hey Russell I have checked Darley out, but they do not exist anymore. Shut down or were bought out by another.
Finding 75mm thick refractory tiles [230x230 min] is like looking for a needle in a hay stack over here. I lucked onto them for the current oven [should have bought more when I had chance]. If necessary to get the thermal mass I might have to settle for 50mm plus 25mm tiles [just more work], this is not my first choice though. Not keen on just using 50mm tiles.

[daveskis]

Colin
Yes to the suggestion of using Hebel. You may have mistaken the fact that a fireplace and wood storage was due to my labours alas, no, it was here.

I am in Doreen and coincidently I have spoken to Mark already. Very helpful. Well Taylors Lakes is closer to my neck of the woods. With your expertise you can expect more questions. Hope you are not annoyed at that prospect.
Cheers mate
Dave

[UtahBeehiver]

Colin,

What about this place, they have splits that are 25mm or tiles that are 38mm.

http://www.darleyfirebrick.com.au/bricks.html

[oasiscdm]

Hi all

New oven not that far away. Will be almost creating the exact same oven in our new home. Only difference is that I will be having a large base that will store at least 2 tonne of wood. with the hearth the same height as surrounding table. Similar to Litekeeper build. the oven will be identical to the current one as I really like the finish and the Japanese Kanji theme.

[oasiscdm]

Hi Russell nice to hear from you. Same place or flour, taylors lakes delicatessen. Only reason I am not using Caputo is I don't want to have to move 25 kg of flour I 4 weeks when we move.

My mothers pottery group wont help as it is a small concern. I will Keep checking with various refractory suppliers. should have thought more clearly when I bought the original 75mm thick fire brick tiles as they had more than I needed.

[UtahBeehiver]

Colin,

Good to see you post. Keep everyone posted on your new flour source. Still from Italy so I suspect you are paying a premium over your already high So. Hemi costs. Look at kiln shelves, they are available up to 1" thick. Check where your mum does her ceramics for local pottery supplies.

http://www.axner.com/cordierite-shelf-10x20x1rect.aspx

[oasiscdm]

Ok all in Aus. I am looking for 230 x 230 x 75mm [minimum size, thickness is the most important to me] tiles. Surely someone in this country has some. I need at least 25 happy to buy 50 [just in case I move again lol :-) ]

I just don't want to have to use 50mm and 25 mm thick tiles to make up the thickness for the hearth, for the next oven.

[oasiscdm]

Trying a new flour between now and when we move to new place. {yep need to build a new oven arrrrrgh]. No point in buying 25 kg of Caputo. Even going to try fresh yeast. So stay tuned that will be interesting as I do not know how to prepare. I am trying different pizzeria flour from Italy as I could buy it in 5 kg amounts.

[oasiscdm]

Hey daveskis

Sorry guys have been absent work is killing me slowly.

The hebel is fine I used 150mm thick blocks, next oven I wont use as thick blocks as it is unnecessary. I have seen another build here elsewhere [on this forum] using 75m blocks it all works. Strength is not an issue they build houses with this stuff.

Hey Russell was great meeting in person. Hopefully one day I will get to Utah.

Still have to post my finishing photos backyard is now completely completed Russell. I will take some photos and post soon. As I said work is killing me. bloody NDIS federal government should be shot drawn and quartered.

It is also cheaper not reo no having to fill. I will admit I painted mine inside and out [outside is a render finish this is a necessity.

[daveskis]

Russell
Woops Checked my list of places skied and it was Brighton not Snowbird. I know Snowbird is in the same area. We were staying in Park City so skied mostly in that area. A couple of our pommie mates ventured down to Alta.
Cheers Dave

[UtahBeehiver]

Dave,

I am partial to Snowbird since I have been on their instructor staff close to 25 years. I teach both snowboarding and skiing so it keeps me young and active for an old guy.

[daveskis]

Hey Russell i have had a good troll through some of those. I think the obvious conclusion seems to be this......it, the Hebel is so light in weight, therefore it must be low in strength. Anyway I am slave to mine now. I brought the house and i need to make do with what i have possibly. This Forum impresses me. I see Colin was very impressed with your build. I must look that up now.
BTW i have been to your wonderful state. I skied about four years ago at Deer Valley, Canyon, Park City and Snowbird(skiing was sensational here). Spent a day in Salt Lake City as well.
Cheers Dave

[UtahBeehiver]

I happen to see Colin and the oven about a month ago. His oven base is very solid and he is planning on building a second oven using the same hebel material. Also, Alex (eastern Europe area) did his build out a similar material called yutong. There have been a handful of other southern hemi builders who have use Hebel for their bases and I have not seen or heard any negative feedback.